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Old Nov 2, 2022 | 04:38 PM
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Does anyone know what speed these trucks were designed to go at in 4x4 high gear ? Has anyone hit the highway before or is it pretty dicey ? Got hit with a ton of snow today
 
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Old Nov 2, 2022 | 04:44 PM
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If you need 4x4, then 'speed' shouldn't even be in the picture. Theoretically though, you can shift into 4x4 at up to like 55mph..... So long as you aren't driving on high traction surfaces, conditions would be the only limit to how fast you wanna go.
 
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If you need 4x4, then 'speed' shouldn't even be in the picture. Theoretically though, you can shift into 4x4 at up to like 55mph..... So long as you aren't driving on high traction surfaces, conditions would be the only limit to how fast you wanna go.

Just be good to know if the blizzard hit the highway again and I'd have to make some progress then crawling home. I always stop to engage the 4x4 I didn't know you can pop it in on the fly ???
 
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Just be good to know if the blizzard hit the highway again and I'd have to make some progress then crawling home. I always stop to engage the 4x4 I didn't know you can pop it in on the fly ???
If your synchro in the t-case is good you can. Otherwise it'll grind when you pull the lever -- you'll know.

Speed limits on 4hi are primarily urban legend, provided you're not on dry pavement.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2022 | 07:12 PM
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If your synchro in the t-case is good you can. Otherwise it'll grind when you pull the lever -- you'll know.

Speed limits on 4hi are primarily urban legend, provided you're not on dry pavement.


Urban legend ??? Lol so you mean there is no limit! ? 🤣
 
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Originally Posted by 96albertaram
Urban legend ??? Lol so you mean there is no limit! ? 🤣
There's little if any valid mechanical argument for a limit, yes. It essentially powers the front wheels the same way it powers the rear wheels.

We can discuss minutiae if anyone wants, although it varies by vehicle. For instance, sometimes the manufacturers don't try too hard to get front pinion angle perfect and thus vibes might occur at certain speeds, although AFAIK all 2nd Gens get a front CV so that should really help.

I've run 75mph on I-25 in 4hi S of Colo Spgs, albeit in a '97 PSD.....the systems are essentially identical but for D50 TTB which shouldn't be a significant variable for the purposes of the discussion. I've been in CO all my life and never practiced a "speed limit" (based upon mechanical restrictions) in 4hi in full-size trucks with part-time 4wd

That's just me, YMMV
 
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Old Nov 4, 2022 | 05:20 PM
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There's little if any valid mechanical argument for a limit, yes. It essentially powers the front wheels the same way it powers the rear wheels.

We can discuss minutiae if anyone wants, although it varies by vehicle. For instance, sometimes the manufacturers don't try too hard to get front pinion angle perfect and thus vibes might occur at certain speeds, although AFAIK all 2nd Gens get a front CV so that should really help.

I've run 75mph on I-25 in 4hi S of Colo Spgs, albeit in a '97 PSD.....the systems are essentially identical but for D50 TTB which shouldn't be a significant variable for the purposes of the discussion. I've been in CO all my life and never practiced a "speed limit" (based upon mechanical restrictions) in 4hi in full-size trucks with part-time 4wd

That's just me, YMMV



Cool. So im good to go as long as its not dry pavement . Thank you
 
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Originally Posted by 96albertaram
Cool. So im good to go as long as its not dry pavement . Thank you

Well, if you NEED 4X4, you ought to run no faster than 40 or 50. Merely because of conditions. If you listen to your machine, it will start to complain if you go too fast. As far as going down the road, I've gone into 4high at 30 before as things started to get sloppy. Generally, my '96 extended cab is pretty stable in 2wd. The gear ration in your front differential is slightly lower than your rear. If you have 3.55 in back, your front is 3.54. This is to keep the chain tight in the transfer case and keep the chain from over running.
 

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Well, if you NEED 4X4, you ought to run no faster than 40 or 50. Merely because of conditions. If you listen to your machine, i will start to complain if you go too fast. As far as going down the road, I've gone into 4high at 30 before as things started to get sloppy. Generally, my '96 extended cab is pretty stable in 2wd. The gear ration in your front differential is slightly lower than your rear. If you have 3.55 in back, your front is 3.54. This is to keep the chain tight in the transfer case and keep the chain from over running.



Good to know. I have a 96 extended cab as well, but I swapped out for 4.10 gearing to accommodate the 33" tires
 
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The difference between 3.54 and 3.55 is so miniscule as to not matter at all and would easily be rendered mathematically useless by very slight differences in tire wear or air pressure.

This whole thing is urban legend, too. Any differences came from different manufacturers, ie Dana Spicer vs corporate (be it a Chrysler 9.25 or Ford 8.8 or whatever). Some manufacturers say tomato, some say tomahto, but whether you say your household outlets are 110V, 115V, or 120V it all refers to same industry standard.
 

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