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Old Nov 30, 2024 | 03:15 PM
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I have a set of 60-40-60 seats i just recently purchased. My original bench seat front mounting bolts are completely seized, rusted, and free spinning along with the cab floors surrounding them being very brittle and some small holes. Can i remove the cushion from the bench seat and mount the 60-40-60 seats on the original black seat mounts? or will i have to look for another option.


 
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Old Nov 30, 2024 | 03:55 PM
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Need to fix the existing bolts. In the event of an accident, you don't want your seat ripping loose. You really wouldn't care for that particular ride. Chemicals are your friend here. PB Blaster is my personal favorite. Clean up the part of the bolt sticking out you can see, and hit it with chems, be generous.... once you have the bolts/seats out, fix the floor. (weld in new metal if you have to....)
 
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Old Nov 30, 2024 | 09:25 PM
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Chemicals and mostly lots of heat will help to remove the seat bolts. I've had to remove seats out of 2nd gen Ram trucks a couple of times and always encounter at least one seat track bolt being stubborn/hard to remove. On my own truck, the driver's side front seat bolt head was terribly rounded and almost rusted away. I had a friend get under the truck to put a massive amount of heat on the bolt from an acetylene torch until it turned cherry red, while I used an air hammer and chisel (plus some candle wax on the bolt threads after heating the bolt) inside the truck to knock on the bolt head enough to get it to start turning. Once the bolt started moving, I used a pair of Knipex pliers to continue turning and finally removing the seat bolt.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2024 | 08:52 AM
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Chemicals and mostly lots of heat will help to remove the seat bolts.
Not everybody has acetylene at home and are stuck using propane. Even then a lot of times it won't be enough. Clean the rust off the bottom of the bolt threads, If it does come loose the rusted threads won't get stuck. Most times the bolt breaks before you can get it out. The head of that bolt is chewed up so just cut it off with die grinder/grinder with a cutting wheel. Wet the surrounding area so nothing catches fire and watch where the sparks go! Having a spray bottle filled with water is also a good idea. After you get the seat out have to look into repairing the rusted floor.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2024 | 09:29 AM
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Gotta be careful with heat. Carpet padding, and the carpet itself are in direct contact with the floor there..... Don' wanna burn the truck down.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2024 | 11:24 AM
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Not everybody has acetylene at home and are stuck using propane. Even then a lot of times it won't be enough. Clean the rust off the bottom of the bolt threads, If it does come loose the rusted threads won't get stuck. Most times the bolt breaks before you can get it out. The head of that bolt is chewed up so just cut it off with die grinder/grinder with a cutting wheel. Wet the surrounding area so nothing catches fire and watch where the sparks go! Having a spray bottle filled with water is also a good idea. After you get the seat out have to look into repairing the rusted floor.
MAPP gas is a hotter, affordable and readily available alternative to propane..
 
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Old Dec 1, 2024 | 11:29 AM
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Gotta be careful with heat. Carpet padding, and the carpet itself are in direct contact with the floor there..... Don' wanna burn the truck down.
Absolutely! I've had to deal with my own truck and a donor truck removing the seats and had to use high heat to remove a stubborn, rusted and rounded seat track bolt. My truck and the donor are still around and not hurt from that process. The floor also wasn't rusted or breached in any way to allow any flame up into the carpet/padding. I did keep water handy in case anything went wrong...
 

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Absolutely! I've had to deal with my own truck and a donor truck removing the seats and had to use high heat to remove the stubborn, rusted and rounded bolt. My truck and the donor are still around and not hurt from that process. The floor also wasn't rusted or breached in any way to allow any flame up into the carpet/padding. I did keep water handy in case anything went wrong...
I was scrapping out a Jaguar... it was rusted beyond belief, and completely unsalvagable.... So, I was under it, cutting out suspension pieces (worth some good money....) and had my brother out there with me to play 'fire watch'.... So, there I am, happily cutting away, when I notice a fair size cloud of smoke from above me. So, "Fire." I said..... Bro didn't move..... "Fire!" I said it bit more loudly..... Bro still didn't move..... Then I saw flames...... "FIRE!!!!!" I shouted at the top my my lungs, and started crawling out from under the car.... Bro finally got his act together, grabbed the CO2 extinguisher we had right there handy, and doused the fire...... Seems he was so engrossed in petting one of the (many....) kittens we had in the garage, that he completely missed the BURNING CAR a few feet away..... The kittens are another story altogether.
 
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I was scrapping out a Jaguar... it was rusted beyond belief, and completely unsalvagable.... So, I was under it, cutting out suspension pieces (worth some good money....) and had my brother out there with me to play 'fire watch'.... So, there I am, happily cutting away, when I notice a fair size cloud of smoke from above me. So, "Fire." I said..... Bro didn't move..... "Fire!" I said it bit more loudly..... Bro still didn't move..... Then I saw flames...... "FIRE!!!!!" I shouted at the top my my lungs, and started crawling out from under the car.... Bro finally got his act together, grabbed the CO2 extinguisher we had right there handy, and doused the fire...... Seems he was so engrossed in petting one of the (many....) kittens we had in the garage, that he completely missed the BURNING CAR a few feet away..... The kittens are another story altogether.
Our handy, dandy local pick and pay salvage yards don't allow torches or spark creating tools in their yards for this very reason. They don't want to be on the news hosting a major fire and its aftermath...
 
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Old Dec 1, 2024 | 12:39 PM
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What scares me is looking at the rusted and cracked floor pan. The bolts are a pita sure .... am not allowed to play with fire ... I probably would use a zip disk and a grinder to remove the bolts.
Then the job is to weld in and patch the floors to get some strength into it ... does not need to look pretty, just strong.

Why worry about replacing the bolts when there is nothing to bolt to?
Maybe even some self tappers and some 16 gauge metal if there is no welder available .... just something anyways. No it would not be safe, at least your guardian angel knew you tried.
 
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