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Old May 26, 2014 | 06:17 PM
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GM's probably having to bring something to the market since not everyone can afford those expensive full size trucks of theirs.
It may be equal parts affordability as it is to just size. I can afford a Honda Odyssey, but bought a Chevy Sonic.

And this is an argument I have with my boss all the time. We sell product A and I want to introduce product B as an option.

He won't let me sell product B because it will take away from sales of product A. However we are already losing sales on product A because competitors are making product B. We should be getting a chunk of that too.

There is a market for people that will have nothing to do with a full size truck and will take the smallest option that does they work they need. Without the Colorado, these buyers are flocking to Nissan and Toyota (and formerly Dodge when the Dakota we a great truck (2000 to 2004). Sure GM may lose some full size sales to the Colorado/Canyon but they'll likely net more than they lost from Dakota, Tacoma and Frontier owners looking for something better.

And a more unpredictable scenario. They may end up gaining sales on full size trucks from buyers that come in looking at the Colorado/Canyon. Similar to a Sonic shopper opting for a Cruze instead since it's just a little larger for a few $$$ more.
 

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Old May 27, 2014 | 09:36 AM
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You know GM and Diesels don't mix.

I have never owned a Diesel and doubt that I'll start now. As much as they say they have perfected the "quiet" Diesel, I can still hear them a mile a way. Who knows, may be Dodge will bring back the Dakota in some form. Didn't they stop making the Durango for a while?
 
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Old May 27, 2014 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by DakotaAgain?
You know GM and Diesels don't mix.

I have never owned a Diesel and doubt that I'll start now. As much as they say they have perfected the "quiet" Diesel, I can still hear them a mile a way. Who knows, may be Dodge will bring back the Dakota in some form. Didn't they stop making the Durango for a while?




I think that FIAT will want a pick-up of some sort to sell world-wide, and may drive the project through. It will be a Quad-Cab, because that's how the rest of the world uses pick-ups now, and maybe it will have a nice little diesel in it.
 
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Old May 27, 2014 | 12:08 PM
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I will own a diesel, I have a dakota. Puerto Rico had a 2.5l turbo diesel dakota, from 97-00. The loud diesels is from the exhaust and ****. I have heard really really quiet diesels. My bosses trucks are both quiet as hell.

And yes, durango was stopped and brought back
 
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Old May 27, 2014 | 03:52 PM
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Chevy will do this diesel right. They did a good job on the cruze. This is what the market wants, just look at how the Ram 1500 diesel sold out so fast. Only negative thing going for these diesels are all the new emissions they have to meet. They take exhaust fluid, have filters in the exhaust, etc.
 
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Old May 27, 2014 | 05:20 PM
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^^ Yeah, you gotta keep a tank full of pee for the exhaust to run through....
 
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Old May 28, 2014 | 09:35 AM
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Chevy will do this diesel right. They did a good job on the cruze. This is what the market wants, just look at how the Ram 1500 diesel sold out so fast. Only negative thing going for these diesels are all the new emissions they have to meet. They take exhaust fluid, have filters in the exhaust, etc.
The reason they sell out is because they make so few of them. Diesel is still a nich market. The may last forever but who keeps their cars that long anyway. Higher mpg is partly offset by 20% fuel premium, the worry that the gas station you are pulling in may not have Diesel and long term unknowns of living with a Diesel car.
 
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Old May 28, 2014 | 12:20 PM
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I wish diesel was cheaper, but then again you have to look at mileage too. Would you want to pay 4 bucks a gallon, to get over 500 a tank? VW has that, and damn I wouldnt mind. If interiors would hold up to the longevity of the diesel motor then people would keep them longer. IMO I dont see why you would trade up unless something happened and it cost more to fix than the car is worth. But then again I will keep mine, then I will rebuild as thats what I do for a living.
 
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Old May 28, 2014 | 12:22 PM
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I think that FIAT will want a pick-up of some sort to sell world-wide, and may drive the project through. ...
For this I hope Fiat keeps their hands out of it. Seen that new Promaster van? That is one ugly sum-beach.... The fact that someone at Fiat/Chrysler allowed that to be sold in the US (or anywhere) looking like that makes me think the company's judgment is seriously flawed.
 
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Old May 28, 2014 | 10:00 PM
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You guys are right about diesels lasting too long. I'm dealing with that with my Vw. Its at 435k miles. Never let me down in the 11 years I've had it. I'm just ready for something new. Going car shopping tomorrow.
 
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