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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 10:54 AM
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anyone know anything abou our balljoint? besides they suck! like are the pressed in or threaded and did anyone do there own? im a wrencher and was wondering if anyone had info on what to expect or special tools i may need? thanks

guess theres no "realife" gearheads or "pro" auto techs in the crowd....
 

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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 12:09 AM
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our ball joint are rivet in thay dont fail, they just break free and start to wear into the control arms.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 09:15 AM
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The upper balljoints are integral to the a-arms, such that if excessive play develops in the joint, Dodge will be happy to replace your perfectly good control arm assembly. At least that's how I interpret the service manual.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 09:30 AM
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Yep RIVETS, no pinch-bolts...
 
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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 01:27 PM
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so i need to replace the whole upper arm? then why do the sell just the joints? thees no rivets on the upper a arm
 
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Old Dec 12, 2008 | 02:02 PM
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From the Service Manual p. 2-37:

"6. If the travel exceeds 0.5 mm (0.020 in.), replace the upper control arm since the upper ball joint is integral to the
arm (Refer to 2 - SUSPENSION/FRONT/UPPER CONTROL ARM - REMOVAL)."

Travel is free play in the balljoint between the arm and the steering knuckle.

Seems to me; either the joints were designed for a "Lifetime" or it was a lot cheaper to manufacture them this way, even when failure means total replacement. I wonder how much an upper a-arm is.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 05:28 PM
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The front ball joint went out on my truck also, 2005 dodge dakota, it had about 38k miles at the time. I can't remember the specifics of what they did but it was expensive. Driver's side.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 09:02 PM
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Man, that's early. Just outside of warranty too...did you try to talk a dealer into covering it? I've heard tales of failures just outside of warranty being covered.

If my ball joints sht out before about 75,000 I will not be thrilled. If you're gonna fuse them to the goddamn a-arm they'd better be a lifetime part. Just kidding, I know we're talking about Dodges.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 09:31 AM
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I'll tell you what I found out after researching the ball joint issue with my local parts department. The lower ball joint is replaceable and can be ordered from Dodge. The upper ball joint CANNOT be ordered from Dodge by itself. The upper ball joint is made into the upper control arm, and can be ordered for around $250!!! All around, this truck is poorly designed, IMO. I've had multiple issues with mine.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2008 | 04:42 PM
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I was looking at mine this weekend, and it appears there is no way to grease the upper ball joints. Is this right?
 
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