Custom suspension (mid/long travel) happening.
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Get ready to be bombarded with questions about specifics.
Did you go with 66mm over on everything or did you go with slightly longer UCAs to account for dynamic camber combined with non level ride height stance? (is ride height going be factory or will you have a little leveling going on?)
White kind of misalignment are UCA joints capable of handling? I noticed that on the previous two pictures the UCAs are not on so how will they affect travel. I'm assuming that either the UCAs or the CVs are the limiting factor. Also, are you strapping and bumping yet or will you just let the COs handle it?
What spring rate do you plan to use? Do you have a QC or a regular cab? Do you know the weight distribution because I don't and can't find it anywhere.
Do you already have the RAM 1500 CV axles or are you waiting?
What type of welder are you using? What are your qualifications to be doing the custom work (just curious as I have none but want to learn to do some minor fabrication)?
hmm...
What all have you trimmed from the fender and wheel well?
In hindsight, could you have avoided having to do all the grinding (I'm assuming you trimmed the knuckle with a angle grinder) on the knuckle?
Were you not concerned with the bearing cups warping when you did all that welding?
Did you go with 66mm over on everything or did you go with slightly longer UCAs to account for dynamic camber combined with non level ride height stance? (is ride height going be factory or will you have a little leveling going on?)
White kind of misalignment are UCA joints capable of handling? I noticed that on the previous two pictures the UCAs are not on so how will they affect travel. I'm assuming that either the UCAs or the CVs are the limiting factor. Also, are you strapping and bumping yet or will you just let the COs handle it?
What spring rate do you plan to use? Do you have a QC or a regular cab? Do you know the weight distribution because I don't and can't find it anywhere.
Do you already have the RAM 1500 CV axles or are you waiting?
What type of welder are you using? What are your qualifications to be doing the custom work (just curious as I have none but want to learn to do some minor fabrication)?
hmm...
What all have you trimmed from the fender and wheel well?
In hindsight, could you have avoided having to do all the grinding (I'm assuming you trimmed the knuckle with a angle grinder) on the knuckle?
Were you not concerned with the bearing cups warping when you did all that welding?
LCA joint is a capable of 35 degrees, UCA 40. cvs limit travel for now; Kore inner cvs should give me a couple more inches. i will be bumping and strapping before i get wild, but i am going to cruise around town testing it out first.
spring rates are posted above somewhere; 750/10" over a 900/12" I think. I have a qc; and I found the weight distribution, but did not use it. I mounted a known rate spring, and put the weight of the truck on it, level and at ride height to measure the deflection of the spring. It moved x inches and needed to move y inches, so I did the math, and came up with an overall rate (412"lbs i think). Plugged in the dual rate formula and came up with my springs. Wayne at alltech helped me with this. Obviously this rate is specific to my particular wheel rate, so it wont apply to the same truck with different length arms or shock locations.
I have the ram axles. No issues; they are the right length and they fit both ends. the inner joint is slightly further outboard which steepens the angle a bit unfortunately, but still worth it. I plan to move the LCA frame mounts out as far as possible with the camber bolts and adjust alignment with the threaded bushings on the CAs. This will bring the inner cv and the LCA frame pivot closer to being co-planer. The inner joints get better angles when they are "unplunged," that is why the CAs are fabbed 3+" longer whereas the cvs are 3-" longer; pulls the cv shaft out a bit for less interference.
Miller Maxstar foot pedal TIG with argon and standard (e72?) mild steel rod. No qualifications.
I trimmed about 1 3/4" from all four wheel arches when my rears started rusting a while back. These are being swapped for glass, though. With a firewall chop (not too bad) and some clearancing of the structural members above the wheel, 35s will fit at a pretty good stuff. Doubt i will sustain full stuff with the wheel cut like that. If I do, i suspect I will have more problems than rub.
with these particular joints I needed most of that spindle clearancing. Dirtfab is right about heims and spacers, but i wanted something more suitable for the mud/salt in wv (greaseable, adjustable, rebuildable). with 4x4 there is not much stack height available between the outer cv cup and the lower ball joint location on the spindle. I even had to shave the head of the bolt i used.
I was very concerned with the cup warpage. As dirtfab suggests alternate welds, try to keep heat even and not excessive. take breaks and be patient. The joints I used have bronze and chromoly races that can be left in place while welding. If there is some deflection the ball will re-seat over time and the joint can be adjusted.
Last edited by rookie; 01-06-2015 at 12:07 PM.
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By bind-free you mean smooth and progressive? Its pretty tight in there, but no interference as of yet, and the shock pretty much ends up at perpendicular to the LCA at full stuff. Rides at 25 degrees or so. cycles smooth on the jack stands. going to bump it and strap it to leave 3/4" of shock travel at full stuff and droop to protect the shock.
Last edited by rookie; 01-06-2015 at 03:49 PM.
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RAM CVs are 66mm longer than Dakota one rite? So 3 1/8" is about 79mm. So 13mm extra length on the CAs for minimizing plunge? Are there snap-rings or some other countermeasure to prevent the shaft from plunging fully into one joint and leaving too little spline in the other or is the length enough so that this is not an issue?
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RAM CVs are 66mm longer than Dakota one rite? So 3 1/8" is about 79mm. So 13mm extra length on the CAs for minimizing plunge? Are there snap-rings or some other countermeasure to prevent the shaft from plunging fully into one joint and leaving too little spline in the other or is the length enough so that this is not an issue?
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I found a rubber bushing that fit well from ride tech for the uppers. they are threaded shank also. The upper bj is an emf weldable unit (if it ever shows up) that has the pin machined into the spherical ball. Similar to a uniball, but no through bolt. that gives it a smaller profile and more articulation (40 degrees? or so)
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Update: front end is back together. newly fabbed upper and lower CAs, extended tie rod ends, longer ram axles, 10" foa coilovers, 6"+ increased track. Ride is phenomenally plush and the truck is more stable despite being soggy and having no swaybar.
the upper ball joints i wanted never came through, and i used ones with "only" 32 degrees of movement. this seems to be limiting the bump and droop to about 11.5-12" of total travel. not bad. with a different upper ball joint and flexier cvs 14" or more is no problem, but i'm in raptor territory as it is.
no pics yet; the truck looks dumb anyway right now with the wheels sticking out and the fender liners and mud flaps gone. 2" wheel spacers coming for the rear and 35s seem like they will not rub unless i can fully stuff the tire with the wheel at full lock (firewall). pics to follow soon. getting ready to paint the hanneman fenders.
the upper ball joints i wanted never came through, and i used ones with "only" 32 degrees of movement. this seems to be limiting the bump and droop to about 11.5-12" of total travel. not bad. with a different upper ball joint and flexier cvs 14" or more is no problem, but i'm in raptor territory as it is.
no pics yet; the truck looks dumb anyway right now with the wheels sticking out and the fender liners and mud flaps gone. 2" wheel spacers coming for the rear and 35s seem like they will not rub unless i can fully stuff the tire with the wheel at full lock (firewall). pics to follow soon. getting ready to paint the hanneman fenders.
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