172 milles on vehicle and Drive train PCM failure 2011
#11
So is that the part that you were asking him if he was willing to blame himself? For buying a new car?
#12
I think that poster was patting him/herself on the back, but this topic is worrisome for new and used purchasers.
2013 rolls around and you buy a 2011, PCM blows up (or some other part) and you have no online option to buy it, your service department doesn't have it, mopar parts doesn't have it, there are none in the junk yards... what are you going to do then? What if you get in an accident and one or more parts won't be available for an indefinite period of time.
Chrysler group just posted some pretty impressive numbers for their last quarter so they might be having some growth/supply problems. To leave the OP with a caravan, for an indefinite period of time, is crappy at best but probably meets lemon law.
In Florida, for example, Florida Lemon Law 681.104 1b talks about the time period as 15 days at dealer followed by a registered letter to the mfg. I think the OP should go down this route.
2013 rolls around and you buy a 2011, PCM blows up (or some other part) and you have no online option to buy it, your service department doesn't have it, mopar parts doesn't have it, there are none in the junk yards... what are you going to do then? What if you get in an accident and one or more parts won't be available for an indefinite period of time.
Chrysler group just posted some pretty impressive numbers for their last quarter so they might be having some growth/supply problems. To leave the OP with a caravan, for an indefinite period of time, is crappy at best but probably meets lemon law.
In Florida, for example, Florida Lemon Law 681.104 1b talks about the time period as 15 days at dealer followed by a registered letter to the mfg. I think the OP should go down this route.
Last edited by OrlandoDurango; 02-05-2012 at 10:16 AM.
#13
#14
Funny you say that. His post was how I found this site on google. Why did I find his post in google, you say? Because I'm considering buying the 2012 r/t and wanted to see how the user reviews have been so far. Not the best pr. Of course, I'm still strongly considering it.
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#16
Everything has trade offs. The biggest trade-off to buying new is well, obviously the money. But also come peace of mind knowing it's yours, what's been done to it, and of course, a full length warranty, and the latest tech.
Depending on how old the used car is that one gets, well, the trade off is uncertainity and more outdated tech, in exchange of course, for the extra money you get to keep in your pocket
Now to buy/lease new, and keep buying/leasing new every three-four years, that's crazy. Ouch. I usually buy new and try to keep at least 7-8 years. Although I'm over 13 years with my own car (that I bought new).
#17
There are waaaaayyyy more happy D owners that don't even bother to post just for the sake to say they're happy, so you have to rely on the very few of us with no problems that do post about being happy.
#18
I wasn't trying to be a "troll" by any means. And I am certainly not trying to say that Dodge not wanting to take a part out of a lot car is acceptable either. I'm just saying with new cars, comes new problems. Its a fact of life so you just have to deal with it. Technology is only technology and it does fail too.
#19
I wasn't trying to be a "troll" by any means. And I am certainly not trying to say that Dodge not wanting to take a part out of a lot car is acceptable either. I'm just saying with new cars, comes new problems. Its a fact of life so you just have to deal with it. Technology is only technology and it does fail too.
Anyway, like you said I "just have to deal with it," which I feel I am doing so quite well. I could be a real PIA for Chrysler, but I am giving them a chance to make things right.
Hey Orlando, the Lemon Law in Michigan is a bit more stringent than FL. It's either a total of 30 days of the vehicle being at the service center for a repair or if after a 4th attempt at repairing a recurring issue fails.
#20
Let's see...new or used?
New: every part is brand new and you have a good shot at getting a car that won't need any repairs at all for 3-5 years. And while cars coming from the factory can have issues from day one, the dealers are supposed to do a pre-sale checkout, and factory warranty issues have dropped precipitously in the last 10 years.
Used: you get someone else's problem that they are getting rid of, and you are getting a car that is guaranteed to need repairs sooner than any new car (depending on how "used" your purchase is).
Buying new costs more, but you are definitely getting something for it.
Used: you get someone else's problem that they are getting rid of, and you are getting a car that is guaranteed to need repairs sooner than any new car (depending on how "used" your purchase is).