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Old Mar 14, 2013 | 07:20 PM
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Thinking of putting a 180 t anyone done it ? What brand should I go with
 
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Old Mar 14, 2013 | 08:24 PM
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I asked about this on the jeep forum and got no response... any ideas guys?
 
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Old Mar 14, 2013 | 08:41 PM
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I am not sure I would recommend this. I am sure there are some minor performance but you may actually throw a code.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2013 | 08:51 PM
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I had 1 in my '99 Durango she ran very nice with the Mopar performance ECU. Biggest issue I had was passing emissions.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2013 | 09:01 PM
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Gen 1 's responded well to 180 Stats
 
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Old Mar 14, 2013 | 09:45 PM
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I have a '67 GTO (2nd one). They all had/have chronic overheating problems. In doing a lot of research over 19 years of ownership, one thing is true. When a stat is open, it's open. So whether or not it opens all the way at 180 deg, or 195 degrees (factory temp for GTO), once it opens, the temps after that are a function of other issues. As mentioned above, if it is cold day and the 180 stat opens, the engine may not be hot enough for the designed combustion, hence you fail emissions. Opening early will have no effect in warm weather as the engine temp will rise to the designed high number. In the summer on a hot night, the GTO will go to 218 deg. Doesn't matter what stat I had in there. Some people recommend taking the stat out to help with overheating problems. But others say doing that makes it worse, because the fluid in the cooling system doesn't stay in the radiator long enough to cool down. I have yet to see a definitive report about the gains from changing a stat to a lower opening temp. If the Mopar performance ECU calls for an earlier opening stat, then that's what you do. But just changing it out because it might pep things up is a waste of time and money and could lead to other problems over the long term. I would guess carbon build up in the combustion chamber would be the first thing to happen if the engine didn't get warm enough in cold weather. BTW, you know what the biggest problem is with the GTO and overheating? Timing. If I use the factory setting of 6 deg BTC, it runs hot. 9 runs best. Over 9, the engine won't crank when it gets hot. Since the timing in modern cars is controlled by the ECU and can't be screwed with unless you reprogram it, changing the stat seems to be a bad idea without some concrete evidence of doing more good than harm.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2013 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by pjw1967
I have a '67 GTO (2nd one). They all had/have chronic overheating problems. In doing a lot of research over 19 years of ownership, one thing is true. When a stat is open, it's open. So whether or not it opens all the way at 180 deg, or 195 degrees (factory temp for GTO), once it opens, the temps after that are a function of other issues. As mentioned above, if it is cold day and the 180 stat opens, the engine may not be hot enough for the designed combustion, hence you fail emissions. Opening early will have no effect in warm weather as the engine temp will rise to the designed high number. In the summer on a hot night, the GTO will go to 218 deg. Doesn't matter what stat I had in there. Some people recommend taking the stat out to help with overheating problems. But others say doing that makes it worse, because the fluid in the cooling system doesn't stay in the radiator long enough to cool down. I have yet to see a definitive report about the gains from changing a stat to a lower opening temp. If the Mopar performance ECU calls for an earlier opening stat, then that's what you do. But just changing it out because it might pep things up is a waste of time and money and could lead to other problems over the long term. I would guess carbon build up in the combustion chamber would be the first thing to happen if the engine didn't get warm enough in cold weather. BTW, you know what the biggest problem is with the GTO and overheating? Timing. If I use the factory setting of 6 deg BTC, it runs hot. 9 runs best. Over 9, the engine won't crank when it gets hot. Since the timing in modern cars is controlled by the ECU and can't be screwed with unless you reprogram it, changing the stat seems to be a bad idea without some concrete evidence of doing more good than harm.
Thanks for the input, certainly not worth throwing a code for something we likely would see too much benefit from anyhow!
 
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Old Mar 14, 2013 | 10:07 PM
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I had it done on my old 5.9 gc & 5.7gc with no problems . But with this truck I have a feeling it will cause me a head ach will see what I do when I get a tune
 
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Old Mar 14, 2013 | 10:32 PM
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I have a bbk in mine. No codes and it definitely runs cooler. I didn't notice any performance increase. I've probably had it in for a year.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2013 | 10:38 PM
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Here's a Jet unit...

http://marylandspeed.com/jet-180-deg...83-p-1095.html
 
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