The dealer must prove that what they are saying caused the problem actually did...very tough to do. Unless they see you plug the tuner in and use it, your going to have a stronger case than the dealer. That same Moss act protects us more than it protects the dealers. Been dealing with modded cars with warranty's for years. Hell I had a Nitrous line cut a rear CV boot in my Magnum and they fixed it under warranty...the car is HIGHLY modded and tuned by Diablo. They are more apt to give you a hard time about your intake than some "flags" in the Starscan.

I would also love to see that dyno and then let a tuner tweak the Diablo and run it again and also tweak the Hypertech...oh wait you can't. No contest! Each ride is different with different mods, quality of fuel, driving habits etc. A custom tune is worlds apart from a can tune. So I will take that challenge against a Hypertech any day of the week.

 

uh...Diablo advertises that the intune and trinity leaves no footprint and they actually delayed the release to make sure of this.

Anyway....just not too crazy about paying $400 for wires and modules that "trick" the pcm into advancing timing, spark etc. It tricks the PCM with false readings! The diablos can actually monitor and track whats going on with your vehicle which inturn you can feed to your cmr tuner for correction etc. No MDS management, no torque management etc? Take a look at the fastest mopar on the net....most are tuned with Diablo. Even if you dont plan on modding to the max....why not buy a diablo over the "hypertech tangled wires doopity doo" just to monitor your trucks health when you please? Theres a ton more reasons to buy the diablo....not even gonna get into them.... Wow......just wow.

 

These are near stock Durangos. Not stroked and blown SRT8 Challengers.

For a guy looking to remain very close to stock (like myself), I just don't see any real advantage with either "tuner" over the other.

I do agree though. If you are planning heavier mods, a true "tuner" (one someone could tweak on during a dyno session) would be the way to go.

I think Hypertech would work just fine for the original poster's needs.

 

I haven't purchased a tune yet but simply seeing the positive results vs.the ohhh my dash light is on, ohhh that feature isn't working or the "we will work the bugs out" speech that diablo is slinging on a $500 product controlling a $10k power train is a lil bogus IMO. I get why your pushing the diablo Scott in regards to them being a sponsor on your forum, their track record as a tuner and the hypertech units limitations but bottom line in this regard is you have never used either on a 3g Durango...to which I say wow...just wow!

 

BTW who the hell is running heavier mods on a 5000+ lb 7 seat SUV... its a ridiculous argument when both work!

 

I am feeling the same way. If indeed I do get one of these tuners I do not want to see 1 light come on or 1 problem arise. I will never be modding past the Cai and maybe cat back exhaust at some point. I will more than likely get the hypertech. I do still have to pay for my Durango and it is still used as it was intended to haul family and many kids quite frequently, so much more than those mods is ridiculous
STEVE

 

[QUOTE=Scottina11heat;3006497]uh...Diablo advertises that the intune and trinity leaves no footprint and they actually delayed the release to make sure of this.


I had a Trinity T1000 on my 09 Trailblazer SS then I upgraded to JET DST and guess what with the TRINITY REMOVED, I received this message upon install. "WARNING: Factory program has been altered confirm that no other files are currently in use". If JET DST can "SEE" that diablo was on there then you better be sure the factory MASTER program diagnostics CAN SEE IT. The real question is CAN THEY DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT? You also have to explain why your KEY counts have been changed since when you remove Diablo it alters such factors. Strange Sir why in 4,000 miles you've only started your car 4 times. or Why has this car not recorded any extended self diagnostics. That's ok you can say you disconnected the battery for a stereo install. OH WAIT.. that doesn't alter key counts!!!!

Here is a ford tech QA guide for just such an issue. Take from it what you will.

http://i1332.photobucket.com/albums/...pse2d64ad5.jpg

 

I wish someone would dyno using each back to back so we could see the difference in power.

 

Well I am gonna get me a MIAGI TURBO (lets see how many can date themselves here!) LOL

 

Ahh, Daniel Son.