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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 11:00 PM
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I have an 05 and want to get hid headlights. I know the 02-05 rams had flickering problems or just problems with hids not working right. Hid extra started selling theirs with resistors but i heard they didnt always work. Where can i buy a set of hids that actually work? Is there anything new out that works?
 
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 01:32 AM
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i dont know about the resistors but the kit i got the guy installed the resistors for me from radio shack and havent had a problem with them in almost the year i have had them
 
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 03:47 AM
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Just get a kit off ebay, there all the same for the most part. Wiring up the resistors is easy, takes like 5 mins.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 06:33 AM
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 06:37 AM
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These are the resistors you want

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2pcs-...Q5fAccessories

There is plenty of info out there on it but I will sum it all up for you

Our trucks PCM and FCM read a resistance measurement through the headlight and tail light bulb filaments. When a filament blows the resistance drops and this lets the PCM/FCM know a bulb is out and two things happen here.

1) the modules reduce voltage and
2) the Lamp Out on the dash comes on to notify the driver

So because HIDs are gas filled and not a filament type bulb, when you plug them in the PCM/FCM module does not see "bulbs" and those two things stated above happen.

But because the voltage has been reduced, the HID kits will normally strobe or flicker.

The OEM filament type bulbs are 55w/65w bulbs. One the headlight harness plugs there are three wires. There is the low beam (12v), the high beam (12v) and the common (-).

So my taking 50 watt load resistors and adding them onto the HID harnesses, we can used them to replicate the resistance needed to trick the PCM/FCM into thinking there are bulbs there and that will reciprocate the two issues stated above. In other words, full voltage will be supplied and no Lamp Out light on the dash.

Specifically, the resistors get wired as such. We know there are two ends to each resistor and there are three wires on each headlight. Take one load resistor and splice it to the low beam (12v) wire and the other end to the common (-) wire. The other resistor goes with one end spliced to the high beam (12v) wire and the other to the same common (-) wire.

Now, the trick for powering everything works this way for xenon type kits. Bi-xenons are wired differently but because most of these HID kits that use bi-xenons in DRs do not produce good lighting in OEM headlight housings, no one really uses high beams or bi-xenon kits. So i wont get into the wiring of those type kits.

But xenon kits has a simple 4 or 5 pin 12v SPDT relay.

Pin 30 - goes to the battery with a fuse
Pin 87 - goes to both ballast
Pin 85 - goes to ground
Pin 86 - goes to the OEM low beam wire

Because the ballast require a solid and strong 12v, a heavier gauge wire is needed than the normal 18ga OEM trucks wire. So we use the 18ga headlight wire to power the relay since the relays coil need less than 200mA to power it and energize the coil. But in doing so the contacts will change from 87a to 87 and power the ballast from the battery feed source.

I think this covers everything.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 08:42 AM
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you could get this or this is a bit cheaper
 
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 08:58 AM
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I would never pay that much for a HID kit. Thats crazy right there. $60 is max for me.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 09:34 AM
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he said new not cheap lol, i would never pay that either
 
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 04:25 PM
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So weed, when u wanna take a trip up to ma and put all that know how to work and install my hids,lol ill order a kit and try it out
 
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 04:56 PM
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MA gets way to cold for me. Hell I dont even like north GA.

You can do something like this 9007 HID Bi-xenon kit for $60

(ebay item #230497078252) and add 2 sets of these 6 ohm 50 watt resistors (ebay item #200504654501) for another $15.

You need one of these 9007 spare plugs for the drivers side (ebay item #330326943485) for $8.




Our trucks PCM and FCM read a resistance measurement through the headlight and tail light bulb filaments. When a filament blows the resistance drops and this lets the PCM/FCM know a bulb is out and two things happen here.

1) the modules reduce voltage and
2) the Lamp Out on the dash comes on to notify the driver

So because HIDs are gas filled and not a filament type bulb, when you plug them in the PCM/FCM module does not see "bulbs" and those two things stated above happen.

But because the voltage has been reduced, the HID kits will normally strobe or flicker.

The OEM filament type bulbs are 55w/65w bulbs. One the headlight harness plugs there are three wires. There is the low beam (12v), the high beam (12v) and the common (-).

So my taking 50 watt load resistors and adding them onto the HID harnesses, we can used them to replicate the resistance needed to trick the PCM/FCM into thinking there are bulbs there and that will reciprocate the two issues stated above. In other words, full voltage will be supplied and no Lamp Out light on the dash.

Specifically, the resistors get wired as such. We know there are two ends to each resistor and there are three wires on each headlight. Take one load resistor and splice it to the low beam (12v) wire and the other end to the common (-) wire. The other resistor goes with one end spliced to the high beam (12v) wire and the other to the same common (-) wire.

Because the ballast require a solid and strong 12v, a heavier gauge wire is needed than the normal 18ga OEM trucks wire. So we use the 18ga headlight wire to power the relay since the relays coil need less than 200mA to power it and energize the coil.
 
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