I don't want to muddy up your decision any more than it is now, but (and I think I mentioned this in your other thread) you can also price the Nitto Terra Grapplers, as they are very similar in tread pattern than the Toyo's you are looking at and should cost a bit less.

If longevity is a prime consideration, you may want to look at the Mickey Thompson ATZ. I've had a set of Mickey Thompson tires and at 68k when I sold the truck, they still had good tread left. I got a good buddy with the ATZ's on his Chevy Z71 and he's got 80k on them and he thinks he can get 100k out of them. Unheard of, especially for a fairly aggressive, All-Terrain tire.

Be forewarned though, I only buy Mickey Thompson/Dick Cepek tires for my trucks, and they are NOT cheap, but in my way of thinking, if I pay 1.5 times more for a tire that performs extremely well for me (and I'm hard on tires) and lasts me up to 2 times longer, I'm saving money in the long run...

 

bad in the snow, and bad when it was wet. I didnt want to another winter with them. I replaced them with pro comp xtreme m/t


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so bad with picutres

 

You are not the first guy on here who has said he didn't like the Zeons in the snow, which is funny, because they consistently get among the top snow ratings.

Curious to see how you make out in the snow with the Xtreme M/Ts since a mud tire is traditionally very poor on hard packed snow and ice, where you would normally want more surface contact and less voids in the tread, which is the exact opposite of what a mud tire has.

Of course, for deep, off-road snow, a Mud Tire is exactly what you want...

 

Deep snow they were great, and much better on pavement then the zeons to my surprise. Havent tested them in ice or packed snow yet. Highly recommend a 17 inch package to the op

 

Thanks for the info but they don't appear to make a 275 60 20 and that's what i'd really like to stick with. I think i'm leaning toward the Toyo's but want a few more opinions.

 

I have the LTZ's, and I have had absolutely no issues with them in the snow, and we’ve got quite a bit of snow so far this winter in CT. Also, when driving in the rain, the roads might as well be dry with the way the Cooper’s grip. And I've only had them for around 18k miles, but they still look brand new.

 

and hence, it is almost impossible to figure out what damn tire to buy if you've not had first hand experience with it yourself. Same tire, two different guys, exact polar opposite reviews, LOL.


To make matters worse, that tire has an excellent rating for both snow AND wet pavement, but like I stated earlier, if you do a search, you'll find probably half a dozen guys who own/owned the Zeon who agree with dave-o...


Happens EVERYTIME in a tire thread...

 

i like the zeons but just barely lasted 30k...

 

Which is why I pay a little more for Mickey Thompson/Dick Cepek tires.

I took this a couple of weeks ago when my FCIIs hit 30k miles with my "official" tire tread gauge: