Ok guys friends of mine are really starting to get into this hho kit stuff, and build there own units. I want to know does this really work specially this kit in the link. $700 is a big price tag to pay, but if you really can get that big of a MPG increase it would be well worth it. I have read post were people said there hho kit did not do much. My question is was there kit big enough. You need to produce like 4 to 6 lpm in a hemi to get big results from what I hear, or is this just all snake oil stuff again.




http://www.hhokitsdirect.com/big_hydrogen_generator.php

 

Without a custom tune it won't be too effective. When the o2 sensors see how clean the exhaust is it will send more fuel to compensate and you lose all efficiency. You'd need a custom tune with the ability to really lean out the fuel supply and have your hho running to ensure that the hydrogen is keeping the motor running safely. That kit looks descent but you need more flash protection and a pressure relief valve for the bubbler it looks like to me. If you can't tune the truck then don't get it. Start with a simple mason jar YouTube setup and see if it does anything. They are typically so small that the PCM makes no correction and end up getting a small mpg gain.

 

The kit does come with a computer to control the o2, map, and other sensors to lean out the system and increase the mpg.


This is chip/unit the kit comes with.
http://www.hhokitsdirect.com/mileage...-generator.php

I agree that the only way to get the big gains is to have some software fool your trucks computer into allowing the added hho, and inject less gas/fuel.

 

That sounds great if it works. I've done quite a bit of research as well but haven't met anyone actually running one in a 3rd gen ram to know if it works. If you do buy the 773 and PCM chip thing, please report back to this thread on what your gains are and how it's all working for you. If it does work I might pull the trigger on the setup. Dry cells are definitely better and from the video it looks like you don't need a Pulse width modulator to run it. I say get it... And let me know how it works but seriously it's not cheap to do but if that chip can accurately adjust the air fuel mix on the fly with hho then it should work pretty well.

 

i wouldn't mind trying one but i got a bit of a problem with the price tag. i am eventually planning on making my own but till then i will just have to wonder whether it works. got 3 decent sized sheet of stainless waiting for me to convert them into hho generators. the only thing that has me a bit worried about the one you posted was that it was using 45 amps. that is a lot of power.

 

For the small gas savings involved the kit would take waaaaaay to long to pay off.
Also, you lose alot of power when running an HHO kit. It doesn't have as much HP as fgasoline provides plain and simple.

 

I have read the opposite that hho is 10 times more powerful then gas. Guys with this kit are calming a 35% to 80% increase in mpg. I am not saying I agree with them that is point of this post. Do you know someone running an hho kit with 4 - 6 lpm, and what there power and mpg is?

Quote from:
http://hhosuperpack.com/
FACT: Pound for pound HHO is 10x MORE powerful than gasoline or diesel fuel! Are you Spending too much money on fuel? Maybe it's time you joined the thousands of people worldwide who are already using HHO Technology to improve their vehicle's fuel economy.

Then I read stuff like this:

Myth 4 – Hydrogen has a higher energy density than gasoline or diesel
http://www.dalefield.com/slspartners/hydrogen_fm.html
Hydrogen has more energy per unit mass than other fuels (61,100 BTUs per pound versus 20,900 BTUs per pound of gasoline). The problem with hydrogen is that it is much less dense (pounds per gallon) than other fuels. A gallon of gasoline has a mass of 6.0 pounds, the same gallon of liquid hydrogen only has a mass of 0.567 pounds or only 9.45% of the mass of gasoline. Therefore one gallon of gasoline yields 125,400 BTUs of energy while a gallon of liquid hydrogen yields only 34,643 BTUs or 27.6% of the energy in a gallon of gasoline. The Space Shuttle uses hydrogen as a fuel, because its mass is low, and the fuel is carried in an external fuel tank that is jettisoned during lift off. Automobiles can not have external fuel tanks that are discarded, and the energy per unit volume is used to determine a fuel’s energy density in automobiles. Compressed gaseous hydrogen is even less dense than liquid hydrogen. At 5,000 psi of pressure gaseous hydrogen only has a density of 0.25 pounds per gallon or one twenty fourth the density of gasoline. Gasoline and diesel are far superior fuels to hydrogen in this regard.

Also Check this video out.

A hemi on pure hho no gas at all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHc2sUmiTXE

 

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directo..._Concepts,_Inc.

It would be great if this technology was available.
I actually suggested to my boss to try one of the small hho generators on my work car. 100 mile commute (round trip) daily, this could save alot of green.

 

Funny how the site mentions absolutely nothing on how the kit actually works or how it works with your fuel system etc etc. And the gains are so mixed from one to the next.

 

You answered your own statement/question in your own reply!

This is a total line Bulsh*t straight from an HHO maker. It's a much more powerful ECOMONY increaser, not Performance increaser!
Go to any site that doesn't sell an HHO kit and you'll see you LOSE Performance. There is always a trade off for MPG's, whether it be in a Prius or going HHO!!!

Truckin, mixed reviews, because people who fall for HHO kits and buy and install them need to try to make others belive they are getting out of these kits what they aren't. They are NOT seeing increased performance. I'd like to see a dyno chart to prove this. it remonds me of the exact reason there are no dyno kits for T/B spacers....duh...

And that video you gave....just shows a vehicle can run soley on HHO. They guy even says timing etc isn't right and driveability isn't good. Notice they didn't punch the gas and kept it very easy and light throttles. I bet it woulda fell flat on it's face if he romped on it. Tune or no tune, it had no power. plain and simple.

Just to make things super clear.....

-According to the US Energy Information Administration, hydrogen has three times the power of gasoline by weight and has the highest energy content of any known fuel.
It's by weight, not volume. That's reason no.1

-Liquid hydrogen has an extremely low density (0.07 grams per cubic centimeter). Hydrogen needs about four times the volume of gas in order to produce the same amount of energy.

Because it has low density and takes more "product" to pack into the same amount of space as gasoline, it' takes much more in volume to create the same output

Finally
As of 2010, manufacturers cannot produce enough hydrogen, or hydrogen cars, to make it a more cost effective option over gasoline.

Read this Question and Answer by an unbias Pro.