Don't get me wrong, i'm excited as well, but that sure seems like a lot of problems could arise. I'm not against it, but dontcha think 8 gears in an auto would amount to a lot of gear hunting?

 

would suck if the truck didnt know when to shift up or down haha.
My brother exxagerates about cars going to have huge gear systems ex 16 speed lol

 

I'm not concerned about it not knowing when to shift, because that's what a transmissions computer is for. I'm concerned about it wanting to constantly shift up and down from 5 to 8 while towing or something, and causing excessive heat build up.

I suppose some day it is possible to have a 16 speed transmission. Though I think this new 8 speed will be a pretty big bite on its own.

 

thats what i meant , tranny shifts down then a half second later your already close enough to the next gear you go up and blah you dont need it again.

 

This is what the dealers were telling me a year ago when I was looking for a truck, trannys are crap in the fords.

 

yeah, maybe the 8 speeds will be gear hunters, but at least they will have a 6 speed as well!

 

Well, I'd like to see a dyno before I believe all that. Turbo's need to spool up and therefore the power isn't had a low rpm's like a V8 where it matters most when towing. Also, v6 turbo when towing....I bet it does worse than a V8 while towing for mpg claims. Unfortunately, manufacturers don't have to provide those specs, only empty mpg specs. EcoBoost is likely better at emissions so they get penalized less by EPA which is why they are pushing it hard.

MPG's...Not a whole lot better. It gets 15city/21hwy vs V8 that gets 14city/19hwy

No way Eco Boost has the power going around the city as a V8 does either unless you spool up the turbo which in turn eats up your "claimed" gas cunsumption.
So 1mpg gain in the city and 2mpg gain on highway. The EcoBoost costs $1400 more than a V8 too. On a 24gal tank you gain 24miles extra per tank on the low side and 48 on the high side.

What does that equate to?
The ratio between 24gal tank/15mpg = 1.6 --> Take the 1.6 X $4/gal = $6.40 gain per 24gal tank w/EcoBoost vs V8.
$1400/$6.40 = 218.75 tanks to break even
218.75 tanks x 24gal x 15mpg = 78,750 miles to before you break even. Turbo's are expensive to work on and replace as well, so unfortunately, I'd say your not saving any money in the end. Any issue's and need a turbo replacement and you'll need to drive another 80kmi to even out the expense IF it only costs $1400 to fix.

Strictly highway driving would take half the amount of time. So, if you did 50-50 driving, it would still take you 60kmi before you make your money back with mpg savings!!!

At any rate...
Been saying Manufacturers should turbo everything and not just 4cyl's for the last 15yrs. They are just getting around to it....

 

Exaclty Dirty!

 

Isn't peek torque at like 2500 RPM on the EcoBoost? I would love that, our Hemis are Soooooo weak on the bottom end.

 

Yup. That little v6 really start to develop torque at around 1700-1800 rpm or so. The torque curve comes in early and is real flat. Turbo lag is definately there when taking off from idle but these turbos are small and spool up pretty quickly. I love my Hemi and have it geared to tow/haul *** but I can tell you from my limited experience it won't touch the grunt of that turbo with a trailer hooked up. Heck my turboed red go-cart reaches max torque of 223 at 2000 rpm and it's only a 2.0l. I just hope Ford has the right components behind the engine to handle the power/heat/wear.