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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 11:46 PM
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wheres hankL when you need to him to explain the octane again??? i had not problems runnin the 110 racing fuel it was pretty sweet although i wouldnt run it all the time just a tank every now and again it was interesting but 5 bucks a gallon
 
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 11:53 PM
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Not to start a war on politics or any of that ****... I think all the gas comes from the same place. I think that it is just one big mind f***. If there really wasa differance in companies, then you would see that they would have price battles, dropping the overall cost, and more bashing advertisment between companies on TV. I wonder how much Coke and Pepsi spend on competing against each other compared to any of the oil companies. And any of the ads really don't bash each other like other competing companies do (such as cell phone companies, car companies, oranything else for that matter). Just my observation.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 11:57 PM
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FFMed you do have a point. I have run Chevron and then ran circle K gas and did not see any difference.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 12:02 AM
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wheres hankL when you need to him to explain the octane again??? i had not problems runnin the 110 racing fuel it was pretty sweet although i wouldnt run it all the time just a tank every now and again it was interesting but 5 bucks a gallon
Is that what he had on there before. He's blocked, got bored reading hisangry one sided opinions. Yeah, opinions are like ********, everyone has one. But this is America, and I don't have to listen to him, just like no one has to listen to me. Sorry if that offends anyone but oh well.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 12:04 AM
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Oh, and that web site took me like 20 seconds to look up... I think I just googled "gasoline compound" or something like that... there is about a million hits on that. That just happened to be the first one I clicked on.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 03:11 PM
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Here, I just googled this page, kinda of blurry but a good explination of the principles of octane: http://chemistry.about.com/cs/howthi...a070401a_2.htm

Please tell me I don't sound like someone else on this site...
OOOOHHH!!! Somebody referred the same site as you did!!! Are you sure you aren't brothers? LOL J/K

Seriously though, I just looked in the manual and it does recommend 89 but 87 if you don't have problems. It also recommends not burning high-octane as that could be dangerous to the engine.

FFmedic- I have read that there is quite a bit of difference between brands because all those additives are the only thing they can use to seperate themselves in the marketing. I'll try to find thelinks but honestly, I think burning a quality gas vice a higher octane is the most important thing we could do.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 07:16 PM
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i have had no problems with higher octane gases which i use 90% of the time and FFmedic i seem to remember good ol' hankL saying something blah blah how higher octance fuels burn slower blah blah and which is bad and why you shouldnt use it blah blah you know what i am getting at
 
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 08:57 PM
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I have an 04 Hemi Quad Cab 4x4 ThunderRoad and I use 87 all the time. No problem. I tired hitest once but my mileaged dropped so I went back to good old 87. Been getting 15/17 for GAS MILEAGE THIS SUMMER.


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Yes. Especially if you have certain mods under the hood or a tuner. The manual says that you should run 89 but with a stock setup you can run 87 as long as you don't beat the heck out the engine. Higher octane just burns cleaner and faster thus reducing the chance of knock and tapping. If you are stock run the 89 and you will not have any problems, if you want to run premium, go ahead. You figure it is only about a $7.00 difference compared to the lower grade and it will help out with MPG a little (especially if you have the mods for it)..
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 09:28 PM
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Does the higher octane screw things up? I am not talking the 93 but the 110+.

Now, I definatly don't think that I am a chemist by any means (I got an "R" in high school chem... worse then an F, kinda like them telling you not to bothertaking it again, EVER), but I took this blue collared type class called Chemistry of Haz Mat for the firehouse. From what I remember, the word octane (8) comes from the chemical composition of C8H18... and the properties of the octane are based on the amount of carbon inside the chemical compound... more carbon more stable,and yields a higher amount of energy (propane has 3 carbons in the chain, resulting in a lower molecular weight being a gasand a lower boiling point, thus giving energy off earlier but not as much). So, the octane rating is the amount of octane compounds attached in the gasoline chemical compound (don't ask me what it is) and relates its properties to that compound. Soooo... if there are more octane compounds attached then there should be more energy and a higher ignition temp. I really need to stop drinking.

I hope there is a chemist on this site that will set me straight because I am probably wrong.
If I remember correctly, the octane rating number indicates the resistance to anti-detonation (autoignition, also known as the anti-knock quality) of that fuel as if it contained that percentage of iso-octane (an isomer of octane, C8 H18) with the remainder heptane. This does not mean that 89 octane fuel contains 89% percent octane or iso-octane and 11% heptane, but it has the anti-knock qualities of such a fuel. In reality, most automotive (motor grade) gasoline contains iso-octane, heptane and other petrochemicals, including ethanol and other additives.

Octane ratings and the grade of fuel specified for a specific engine are mostly based upon the compression ratio of the engine, and the ambient air pressure that engine will be used in. At high altitudes, engines that require 87 octane at sea level can safely use 85 octane due to the lower amounts of air that is drawn into the cylinders; less air reduces compression in the cylinders, which deters knock.

Just think what it was like back in the day of supercharged and turbocharged multi-banked radial aircraft engines like Pratt & Whitney’s 28 cylinder, 4,363 cubic inch, 3,870 pound R-4360 Wasp Major radial engines that burned 115/145 octane gasoline to generate 21,000 teeth-rattling, heart-throbbing horsepower.

Don't put THAT in your gas tank! BTW, the 115/145 octane rating of AVGAS is not the same as the (R+M)/2 rating of motor grade gasoline (MOGAS). The 115 octane rating is for a lean mixture and the 145 is for a rich mixture and it is determined via a different testing procedure. Plus, it's a leaded fuel. They still manufacture 115/145 once a year for the air races in Reno.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 12:22 AM
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yeah the 110 racing fueli used was leaded? is that bad?
 
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