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Old 07-08-2007 | 06:12 AM
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Yeah, you usually don't need to worry about running lean unless you get some longtube headers, or possibly a cam.
 
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Old 07-08-2007 | 07:59 AM
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They looked cool as hell. I almost bought a Roman Centurion Helmet, but after researching it I ended up ordering a whole damnoutfit off the net. Doh!
Role play... nice! Happy Anniversary, have fun on your trip!
 
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Old 07-08-2007 | 01:43 PM
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Happy Anniversary! I think its time for me to order a stat now...
 
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Old 07-08-2007 | 02:20 PM
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"21 MPG haulin ***" so what do you think it would have been if you wouldnt have done this thermostat mod? I went to advance auto parts today to get a thermo, they dont carry it : ( Thnaks for all the info on this thermo, good stuff!
 
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Old 07-08-2007 | 07:35 PM
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nice stats man...i just installed mine today took less then 10 min.....you can tell it's got a lil more giddyup but i'll post some stats when i get around to makin a road trip here in a couple days and see if it does any better on gas for me
 
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Old 07-08-2007 | 08:43 PM
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My take on "Cooler Stats"

The inherent nature of going to a cooler thermostat (say a 180 degree as opposed to a stock 195 degree) causes two things to happen.

#1 -- Your spark timing will advance (something most, if not all programmers already do). Even if used without a programmer, you should run high octane gas or engine knockcan occur.

#2 -- Your mixture will be richer. A VERY desirable effect when running long tube headers, especially in conjunction with most tuners. Which in some cases can cause the mixture to run so lean that damage occurs.

These two things (plus the use of high octane fuel - which will now be better optimized) will give more power, inmost cases significant enough to feel.

However, the richer mixture will INCREASE fuel consumption so, I cannot believe anyone would experience an increase in MPG.

So, IMO, if you have no intake/exhaust mods, this upgrade would probably be more detrimental than helpfull. With intake and/or exhaust mods it would be beneficial, if you can justify the higher octane fuel cost and the slight loss of MPG. If you have a tuner/header combo, and already have to run high octane gas, I think it is a must do (even though every tuner manufacturer seems to be against them).

 
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Old 07-08-2007 | 09:13 PM
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Pappy, Happy Anniversary! Will the 180° stat effect the 5W 20 oil used in our 2006 hemi since the engin will be running cooler at longer periods. I was just curious if a heavy weight oilmight be needeneeded.
 
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Old 07-09-2007 | 12:12 PM
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My take on "Cooler Stats"

The inherent nature of going to a cooler thermostat (say a 180 degree as opposed to a stock 195 degree) causes two things to happen.

#1 -- Your spark timing will advance (something most, if not all programmers already do). Even if used without a programmer, you should run high octane gas or engine knockcan occur.

#2 -- Your mixture will be richer. A VERY desirable effect when running long tube headers, especially in conjunction with most tuners. Which in some cases can cause the mixture to run so lean that damage occurs.

These two things (plus the use of high octane fuel - which will now be better optimized) will give more power, inmost cases significant enough to feel.

However, the richer mixture will INCREASE fuel consumption so, I cannot believe anyone would experience an increase in MPG.

So, IMO, if you have no intake/exhaust mods, this upgrade would probably be more detrimental than helpfull. With intake and/or exhaust mods it would be beneficial, if you can justify the higher octane fuel cost and the slight loss of MPG. If you have a tuner/header combo, and already have to run high octane gas, I think it is a must do (even though every tuner manufacturer seems to be against them).

Increased timing will give you a better burn (more power) so you could "in theory" be using less throttle to sustain a speed. Now naturally running richer will use more gas, but you will normally only see these condition under WOT, otherwise your engine keeps your A/F at 14.7 (stoic for catalytic converters). I had my current car (2003 Cobra Mustang, supercharged for those thad don't know). I was really really rich (10:1 A/F)when I got done doing my mods and putting a safe base tune in. After I got tuned (12:1 perfect for forced induction and my mods) I picked up 1mpg, this is becuase when you are not WOT, you stay at 14.7 (get a wideband and you will see this). So I would guess the advanced timing theory is shining more than the richer A/F (and we are talking 1/10 of point here, I picked up 2 full A/F points and barely saw gas mileage increase). You are right about the higher octane price (more costly fuel makes your $/mile go up), so the gains are not as apparent, but if you get more power, cooler engine temps, and this supposed gas mileage increase (even though possibly small), worth it IMHO.

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Old 07-09-2007 | 02:56 PM
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Pappy, Happy Anniversary! Will the 180° stat effect the 5W 20 oil used in our 2006 hemi since the engin will be running cooler at longer periods. I was just curious if a heavy weight oilmight be needeneeded.
Thanks CNester.

I am running 5w20 Pennzoil Synthetic.

ugg..MDS no like thick oil

P.S. Thanks FFMedic and Hanson Sorry for the lateresponse.
 
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Old 07-09-2007 | 03:16 PM
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Has anyone tried this on a 4.7L ? ... or know where I can get one for my 4.7?
 


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