Lucas Oil
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#5
RE: Lucas Oil
Over the years I have seen a least 3 Lucas advertisements that were little demonstration stands set up in auto parts stores to convince customers that Lucas oil was better somehow...put each demonstration was deceptive like trying to convince you that oil that clinged to gears was somehow better at providing lubrication.
For this reason I would avoid using Lucas products.
I don't trust them because of how they try to fool 'average joe' customers.
I don't think you can go very far wrong by either using the official Chrysler products, Mobil 1 products, or the lube products that Mercedes/BMW specifies for their trans and diffs.
My favorite specialty lube company is this smaller, lesser known one, out of Fort Worth TX:
http://www.le-inc.com/
My experience with LE in mining is that they have saved companies I have worked for thousands of $ in the toughest lube challenges. Their salesmen were always extremely well trainned and could explain the science in simple terms that intelligent but poorly educated miners could understand.
A really good LE saleman was the first to explain to me that it was not the viscosity on the label of an oil that mattered like 90W, but the 'real world' viscosity of the lube oil when it got to whatever temperature a piece of machinery was operating at in the field....and that you had to look this 'operating viscosity' up in a table. LE was one of the few companies that would give you a table for each oil or grease. By doing this you 'hit a double' by extending the life of the bearing and lowering the friction at the same time.
For this reason I would avoid using Lucas products.
I don't trust them because of how they try to fool 'average joe' customers.
I don't think you can go very far wrong by either using the official Chrysler products, Mobil 1 products, or the lube products that Mercedes/BMW specifies for their trans and diffs.
My favorite specialty lube company is this smaller, lesser known one, out of Fort Worth TX:
http://www.le-inc.com/
My experience with LE in mining is that they have saved companies I have worked for thousands of $ in the toughest lube challenges. Their salesmen were always extremely well trainned and could explain the science in simple terms that intelligent but poorly educated miners could understand.
A really good LE saleman was the first to explain to me that it was not the viscosity on the label of an oil that mattered like 90W, but the 'real world' viscosity of the lube oil when it got to whatever temperature a piece of machinery was operating at in the field....and that you had to look this 'operating viscosity' up in a table. LE was one of the few companies that would give you a table for each oil or grease. By doing this you 'hit a double' by extending the life of the bearing and lowering the friction at the same time.
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RE: Lucas Oil
After catching so much crap when I opened my mouth and gave my opinion last month, I figuredI'd stay out of anything and keep my opinions to myself (see last months TOTM).
But:
Is it just me, butevery time I read a post by this HankL dude, it appears he lives in the "opposite" universe. Eerything he types isthe oppositefrom the facts. I've read dozensof independant reviews on Lucas oils and NEVER have read a bad one. A quick search for independant oil reviews shows a bunch, and I have not found a bad one yet.
Here's a couple examples.
"I think you may be interested to read about an oil system failure that occurred in my blown methanol powered Anglia, & due to your superb products resulted in no engine damage whatsoever.
The incident occurred at Shakespeare County’s 2006 Open Sports Nationals. Under full power approaching the end of a 7.9 second - 169mph pass, I saw the oil light come on, glanced down at the pressure gauge needle resting on the end stop, & shutdown the engine.
In the pits we quickly traced the problem to a sheared oil pump drive, expecting the worse inspected the oil filter screen, nothing unusual! Removed the sump, checked the crank, rod & main bearings: PERFECT!
An uprated oil pump shaft was the only part required for the remainder of the season, & not only did the engine survive, but went on to retain the championship & reset the Outlaw Anglia ET & Speed records.
I have since has the opportunity to freshen-up the engine for the 2007 season & have found NO abnormal wear on any components. I’m sure the H/D Stabilizer saved the engine & many £££’s
The oil we use is Lucas 50 Plus (11 quarts) + Heavy Duty Oil Stabilizer (½ quart)"
-- 2005-2006 Outlaw Anglia Champions
"I hadthe power steering box overhauld 18 months ago because the seals collapsed and the pitman shaft was worn.But the rack and pinnionmust have been worn as the steering was not precise. I put some Lucas Power Steering Stop Leak in at Ripon and after about5 miles on the wayhome the Steering became more precise without any wonder at all. Fantastic!
I certainly will recommend Lucas Oil Products to anyone who will listen to me."
"As an unsponsored professional racer I have used lots of lubrication products in the past, but now will only use Lucas Oil. The oil and oil additives are without question the best around and have helped me win countless races. If you want the ultimate in performance and reliability use Lucas"
HankL get a clue.
But:
Is it just me, butevery time I read a post by this HankL dude, it appears he lives in the "opposite" universe. Eerything he types isthe oppositefrom the facts. I've read dozensof independant reviews on Lucas oils and NEVER have read a bad one. A quick search for independant oil reviews shows a bunch, and I have not found a bad one yet.
Here's a couple examples.
"I think you may be interested to read about an oil system failure that occurred in my blown methanol powered Anglia, & due to your superb products resulted in no engine damage whatsoever.
The incident occurred at Shakespeare County’s 2006 Open Sports Nationals. Under full power approaching the end of a 7.9 second - 169mph pass, I saw the oil light come on, glanced down at the pressure gauge needle resting on the end stop, & shutdown the engine.
In the pits we quickly traced the problem to a sheared oil pump drive, expecting the worse inspected the oil filter screen, nothing unusual! Removed the sump, checked the crank, rod & main bearings: PERFECT!
An uprated oil pump shaft was the only part required for the remainder of the season, & not only did the engine survive, but went on to retain the championship & reset the Outlaw Anglia ET & Speed records.
I have since has the opportunity to freshen-up the engine for the 2007 season & have found NO abnormal wear on any components. I’m sure the H/D Stabilizer saved the engine & many £££’s
The oil we use is Lucas 50 Plus (11 quarts) + Heavy Duty Oil Stabilizer (½ quart)"
-- 2005-2006 Outlaw Anglia Champions
"I hadthe power steering box overhauld 18 months ago because the seals collapsed and the pitman shaft was worn.But the rack and pinnionmust have been worn as the steering was not precise. I put some Lucas Power Steering Stop Leak in at Ripon and after about5 miles on the wayhome the Steering became more precise without any wonder at all. Fantastic!
I certainly will recommend Lucas Oil Products to anyone who will listen to me."
"As an unsponsored professional racer I have used lots of lubrication products in the past, but now will only use Lucas Oil. The oil and oil additives are without question the best around and have helped me win countless races. If you want the ultimate in performance and reliability use Lucas"
HankL get a clue.
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RE: Lucas Oil
Chaz Fish---Not disagreeing with youbut have you read the Amsoil report on the top of our forums? According to them Lucas is one of the worst you could buy. Hmmmm.....what a dog-eat-dog world in the lubrication business. I'm with Hammer, take your advice from the pro's. They see more diffs in monththen any of us will see in a lifetime.
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RE: Lucas Oil
Chaz boy, That was a well researched, thorough post. And I must agree, I have never heard anything bad about Lucas products. Personally, if I'm gonna trust a place to do my gears and LSD, the way I am about my truck, then I'm gonna trust what they tell me as far as the lubricant for it.
If I didn't have the Auburn unit, I'd undoubtedly use Amsoil or Royal Purple in the diff., however, since that is not an option, I'll be using Lucas unless I see evidence that I shouldn't, for as long as I own the truck.
BTW - you could have made your point without the negative comment directed toward another poster. THAT is what got you in trouble last month...
If I didn't have the Auburn unit, I'd undoubtedly use Amsoil or Royal Purple in the diff., however, since that is not an option, I'll be using Lucas unless I see evidence that I shouldn't, for as long as I own the truck.
BTW - you could have made your point without the negative comment directed toward another poster. THAT is what got you in trouble last month...
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RE: Lucas Oil
ORIGINAL: Duso02
Chaz Fish---Not disagreeing with youbut have you read the Amsoil report on the top of our forums? According to them Lucas is one of the worst you could buy. Hmmmm.....what a dog-eat-dog world in the lubrication business. I'm with Hammer, take your advice from the pro's. They see more diffs in monththen any of us will see in a lifetime.
Chaz Fish---Not disagreeing with youbut have you read the Amsoil report on the top of our forums? According to them Lucas is one of the worst you could buy. Hmmmm.....what a dog-eat-dog world in the lubrication business. I'm with Hammer, take your advice from the pro's. They see more diffs in monththen any of us will see in a lifetime.
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