Horseapples incorrectly writes that:

"Hank is of the opinion that CAI's are a waste of money and make no improvement on the induction systemat all."

Horseapples your ASVB score must have been lower
than the gallons that will fit in a shortbed Ram gas tank.

I will say a little prayer that they kept you and Pappy
wiping the dust off of Titan nosecones
and that someone far different than you designed that equipment.
I doubt they led you aim a WD-40 can's nozzle.

It is doubtful you are willng read anything longer
than the captions Larry Flynt puts under pictures,
but it is certain you don't understand anything about
how to find if an intake does any good
or for that matter...anything I have written on the subject.

I have written up and posted tests where a KN filter fell half way between running a quartermile without any filter and with the stock filter....and I included MAP readings. That is proof that when new a KN filter is slightly less restrictive...a tiny bit...even though it clogs more quickly and all advantage goes away in less than 5,000 miles.

I have posted the Duramax volunteer tests on various filters...those show pretty much the same: very slight gain when new but that quickly clogs.
http://home.stny.rr.com/jbplock/ISO5011/SPICER.htm

I have written up tests where I measured the pressure drop of the 2nd Gen Ram stock air inlet system at full throttle ahead of the filter: 4 inches of water at 3000 rpm that does not go up any as the vehicle speed increases...which proves the stock design does capture some of the 'ram air' effect, otherwise the restriction would keep increasing as the rpms go higher.

I have posted the links to Kenne-Bell's in house dyno
on a 1998 Ram with a Magnum 5.9V8
where they state that removing the stock system (with a clean new filter)
and feeding the throttle body cool outside air with a 8 inch hose
resulted in a 8 hp gain.
http://www.kennebell.net/techinfo/do...-test-data.pdf
That is completely consistent with the 4 inches restriction I measured and an additional 3 inches or so for the new paper filter.

On another forum a guy who claims to work running dynos for Chrysler (dodge3471) posted 3rd Gen Ram air intake MAP numbers which prove that "improved" factory design for the Ram also captures some 'ram air' and he further told us what the stock air filter restriction amounted to in lost MAP and power: 3 hp

The LX forums dyno tests of CAI's for 300s backed up dodge3471's claim,
as none of those CAI's showed more than 3 hp gain against a clean factory 300 filter.
http://tinyurl.com/2j4gx3

dodge3471 correctly pointed out that the Ram pickup airbox and filter is bigger and even less restrictive than a 300's filter

Hypertech's dynos of 'stock' Rams for year 2003
where a Magnum 5.9V8 engine was still an option
shows the lower restriction of that new and bigger 3rd Gen Ram airbox
does show an improvement over prior year tests with the old 2nd Gen airbox.
http://www.hypertech-inc.com/dynodgtrk.html

I have posted detailed step by step ways to test intake systems
if you have bought one and are deciding whether to get your money back,
or especially if you are building your own.

I have posted how to read the MAP and IAT sensors
and then use the S.A.E. correction factor
to calculate the hp and torque losses
without even going to an expensive dyno session.
https://dodgeforum.com/m_1136981/tm.htm

I have posted a cheap and better 'dyno' for testing air intakes
created by the same guys who started the MegaSquirt project:
http://www.bgsoflex.com/dyno.html

If, after all this
someone claims that I have written
that intakes cannot be
both understoof and therefore improved....
then that person trully is a
'horseapple'

There are more than 20 CAI's out there on the market.
Are most of them "good value" for increasing horsepower?
No.

Are they a complete waste of money?

If you clean a KN before each quartermile run,
you will beat a Ram with a stock air inlet most of the time,
but will lose to a Ram owner
who removes his paper filter entirely from the stock box for his runs.
MAP matters.

For those that don't know
Ken Johnson and Norm McDonald (check initials of first names)
took oiled hospital cotton gauze
and made air filters for weekend motorcycle racers
who had been running all out in the races with no air filter at all
and were having to re-ring their engine's pistons frequently
or sometimes losing an engine that 'ate' trash on the track.
For that original purpose...a KN filter can be argued as worth having,
but even here if you run a KN for minimal protection
you will lose to the racer lucky enough
to complete the race without a filter on his engine,
unless your driving skills are superior.

Can a air intake be made for a Ram pickup that:

improves filtration
lowers noise or increases noise (owner's choice)
lowers operating cost
makes fording streams/rivers/swamps safer
captures more 'ram air' effect at high vehicle speed
lowers fuel consumption at idle by heating the air

Yes to all
but most times you will need to build it yourself
after careful study of what your
father's, grandfather's and great-grandfather's generations
learned and left you as a gift.

Should you pay $200 to $500 for a CAI
that may not improve performance at all
...just looks good and makes a roaring sound?

That is a sucker's choice.

 

And again, childish insluts and half assed attempts at satire fall flat. It is painfully obvious that we cannot conduct an adult conversation/debate based on merit. As soon as you feel threatened or are flat out proven to be incorrect, you resort to petty name calling. Therefore, it is my decision to simply block your replys! Easily acomplished and I hope you do the same to me. I feel no further contact is necessary between us.
I refuse to waste my time in a battle of witts against an un armed opponent.

 

It's about time you decided to use the "little red hand", most of us have done it a long time ago. I was advised to do sothe secondday I got on this forum(and no, it wasn't Pappy thatadvised it) but unfortunately didn't until I learned first hand of the child like resorts to name calling. The only time I see any of his posts is when someone else quotes one, which is almost always to call him out for some asinine statement.

 

LOL, I tried to give the guy the an honest shake, but some people just cant stand to be disagreed with. I'll just chalk it up as A life lesson! Live and learn!