There's no replacement for displacement!
#1
There's no replacement for displacement!
I'm right on the verge of buying a new 2008 Ram. I have a particular love of the control, etc. that comes with having a manual trans, but I like the toys and creature comforts of the SLT/Laramie packages. No dealers understand this, so I may have to order the truck. Even more infuriating is that Dodge won't put a manual tranny behind a hemi for me, even if I order one (unless I get a 2500/3500). I am "stuck" with the 4.7 in a 1500. I owned a 2004 SLT with the 4.7 and NV3550 and liked it a lot, so I don't mind having a 4.7.
BUT I WANT GRUNT! I can afford gas and don't mind paying for it.
Does anyone know how much room the 4.7 has for boring/stroking to get more displacement?
Also, back in the days before chrysler trademarked the word "hemi" as their own, many aftermarkets sold "hemi" heads for ford and chevy SB's and BB's (as well as CC engines), aimed at gearhead hotrods. Does anyone make a "hemi" head for the 4.7?
TIA,
J
BUT I WANT GRUNT! I can afford gas and don't mind paying for it.
Does anyone know how much room the 4.7 has for boring/stroking to get more displacement?
Also, back in the days before chrysler trademarked the word "hemi" as their own, many aftermarkets sold "hemi" heads for ford and chevy SB's and BB's (as well as CC engines), aimed at gearhead hotrods. Does anyone make a "hemi" head for the 4.7?
TIA,
J
#2
RE: There's no replacement for displacement!
if your'e gonna bore it out and all that jaz...
buy yourself a truck of somesort. maybe a 3rd gen not screwed up, but enough for an insurance company to consider it totalled. throw an engine in there...will still end up costing less than a new/moderately used vehicle.
on top of that, it'll be insanely unique. also, if you bore out everything in a new car, i'm pretty sure your warranty is void, so you're better off just building a streettruck. i mean, buy a dakota even..get a last gen dakota with the 360 in it...soup that bad boy up. OR, buy a third gen with 3489234757345 miles on it for a like 2000, spend like $1200 on a big block crate (get a chevy...just cause it'd be funny to put in a dodge), slap it in somehow...go nuts.
or...throw a lamborghini engine in the bed on truck. it'll be like a 1428374hp go-kart.
buy yourself a truck of somesort. maybe a 3rd gen not screwed up, but enough for an insurance company to consider it totalled. throw an engine in there...will still end up costing less than a new/moderately used vehicle.
on top of that, it'll be insanely unique. also, if you bore out everything in a new car, i'm pretty sure your warranty is void, so you're better off just building a streettruck. i mean, buy a dakota even..get a last gen dakota with the 360 in it...soup that bad boy up. OR, buy a third gen with 3489234757345 miles on it for a like 2000, spend like $1200 on a big block crate (get a chevy...just cause it'd be funny to put in a dodge), slap it in somehow...go nuts.
or...throw a lamborghini engine in the bed on truck. it'll be like a 1428374hp go-kart.
#3
RE: There's no replacement for displacement!
Why not just buy the 3/4 ton? Yes, its more weight, but by the time you hot rod the hell out of a 4.7 you MIGHT make the same horsepower as a stock Hemi. My advice to you would be to get the 2500 and be done with it. You get your Hemi and the standard trans.
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#6
RE: There's no replacement for displacement!
This is a daily driver, guys so I can't go quite as whacko as derrick wants me to (otherwise I would use a crate hemi 528 :-P).
I don't care about the weight of the 3/4 ton. I care about the sticker. I don't need the capacity or want the price of a 2500 or 3500.
I'm not worried about the warranty either. First, how are the dealer monkeys going to know that the engine is modified unless they tear it apart and start measuring? Even if they do know, they have to prove that the modifications caused the failure (whatever it may be) before they can consider the warranty void. Before that law was passed we saw a lot of crooked dealers blaming failed alternators on someone's kraco radio or bad cats on the dual exhaust.
J
I don't care about the weight of the 3/4 ton. I care about the sticker. I don't need the capacity or want the price of a 2500 or 3500.
I'm not worried about the warranty either. First, how are the dealer monkeys going to know that the engine is modified unless they tear it apart and start measuring? Even if they do know, they have to prove that the modifications caused the failure (whatever it may be) before they can consider the warranty void. Before that law was passed we saw a lot of crooked dealers blaming failed alternators on someone's kraco radio or bad cats on the dual exhaust.
J
#7
RE: There's no replacement for displacement!
How about this
http://www.wjjeeps.com/hemi_swap.htm
Or this?
http://www.4wheelerssupply.com/jkbuildup/
http://www.wjjeeps.com/hemi_swap.htm
Or this?
http://www.4wheelerssupply.com/jkbuildup/
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#9
RE: There's no replacement for displacement!
I have an 08 ram 1500 with the 4.7L and the six speed. you won't be dissapointed with grunt that's for sure. ur 03 is not even close to what you get with the new 4.7L. mine only has 350 miles on it and so far is getting 15.25 mpg hand calced which is fine by me my jeep wrangler got 18 but was a dog and a half.and this truckhas more **** then i'll ever need lol.
#10
RE: There's no replacement for displacement!
ORIGINAL: litljay
This is a daily driver, guys so I can't go quite as whacko as derrick wants me to (otherwise I would use a crate hemi 528 :-P).
I don't care about the weight of the 3/4 ton. I care about the sticker. I don't need the capacity or want the price of a 2500 or 3500.
I'm not worried about the warranty either. First, how are the dealer monkeys going to know that the engine is modified unless they tear it apart and start measuring? Even if they do know, they have to prove that the modifications caused the failure (whatever it may be) before they can consider the warranty void. Before that law was passed we saw a lot of crooked dealers blaming failed alternators on someone's kraco radio or bad cats on the dual exhaust.
J
This is a daily driver, guys so I can't go quite as whacko as derrick wants me to (otherwise I would use a crate hemi 528 :-P).
I don't care about the weight of the 3/4 ton. I care about the sticker. I don't need the capacity or want the price of a 2500 or 3500.
I'm not worried about the warranty either. First, how are the dealer monkeys going to know that the engine is modified unless they tear it apart and start measuring? Even if they do know, they have to prove that the modifications caused the failure (whatever it may be) before they can consider the warranty void. Before that law was passed we saw a lot of crooked dealers blaming failed alternators on someone's kraco radio or bad cats on the dual exhaust.
J