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Other than the fact you caught a salesman in a lie (imagine that), IMO you are better off without it. IMO, the better gas mileage is why they have different powertrain offerings. I mean, if your gonna put the MDS feature in an engine, why not in the 4.7, people want to save gas, go to a smaller engine with the feature. The way it is now, a 4.7 and Hemi with MDS get about the same mpg's, stupid.
If I was Mr. Dodge CEO, there would be a 1/2 ton with four engine options. The Hemi full blown 8 cyls. all the time, a smaller version of the CTD like a smaller lighter possibly non turbo version, the 4.7 which would actually have a fuel economy benifit over the Hemi be it an MDS type feature or something else, plus be able to use the flex fuels, and then maybe a hybrid.
And since I have my soap box out, I'd expand on the Power Wagon, offer it in a CTD as well and put in a PTO system, kinda like the old Jeeps had, to run PTO farm equipment, generators, etc. Now you'd really have a work horse!!!
If I was Mr. Dodge CEO, there would be a 1/2 ton with four engine options. The Hemi full blown 8 cyls. all the time, a smaller version of the CTD like a smaller lighter possibly non turbo version, the 4.7 which would actually have a fuel economy benifit over the Hemi be it an MDS type feature or something else, plus be able to use the flex fuels, and then maybe a hybrid.
And since I have my soap box out, I'd expand on the Power Wagon, offer it in a CTD as well and put in a PTO system, kinda like the old Jeeps had, to run PTO farm equipment, generators, etc. Now you'd really have a work horse!!!
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When I was shopping around a chevy dealer had told me that they were planning on putting a smaller diesel in their 1500s, 300 hp worth. That was a while ago, might be scrapped now with fuel costs and pickup sales all but dead. Would be nice though, cuz dodge would ahve to follow suit and more of us could afford a cummins. even a smaller one, i'm over 95% sure that it would have to have a turbo on it.
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They got one, it's a non-turbo, was slated for a 2010 debut, I'm not sure of it now with the diesel prices. Nowhere near the HP or torque of the CTD though. I think it's the diesel they are using in the Grand Cherokees. I know they have an agreement for Nissan to get it and use it in the new full size Nissan's that are replacing the Titan...
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I think it is quite difficult to put a MDS feature in an OHC engine like the Ford V8 and 4.7L Dodge. Not enough room in the head for the solenoids and such.
GM has a similar function on it's smaller v8's.
GM has a similar function on it's smaller v8's.
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Is it that easy to tune out and turn on when ya want? I thought it was near impossible.
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Honestly if all I wanted was good gas mileage I wouldnt of bought a hemi. Second, as I stated above the problem just isnt the highway, the highway would be cool but it happens all over at anytime at any speed, not just on the highway. Third, I disagree people do hear the difference on the outside and inside. Fourth it also takes longer to type a single character on the keyboard for it to kick back and forth twenty times from one stop light to the next, in, out, in, out, in, out, in, out.
I like the idea, I dont like how it functions right now and personally when I go to buy a hemi im buying a hemi for a reason, I think dodge would be better off to make this an option.
Dont get me wrong I still love my truck, the OD, tow haul trick worked well today, as does manually shifting.
I like the idea, I dont like how it functions right now and personally when I go to buy a hemi im buying a hemi for a reason, I think dodge would be better off to make this an option.
Dont get me wrong I still love my truck, the OD, tow haul trick worked well today, as does manually shifting.
For sound Ive gotten used to it and it doesnt bother me (but thats me)...or, I recommend upgrading your speaker package and adding an amp/sub. In the process of doing myself.
Hope it gets better for you...
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