Bad bouncing on freeway...
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I really dont want to weigh the ***-end down... probably going to just go with Bilstein HD's instead of the 5100's. They're a little softer. But, I was still thinking about pullingout that overload leaf anyways... anyone have have negative results with that? I know the lowered guys do it alot.
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s13, I'm assuming by your screen name that you are/were a marine and you don't understand the physics of weight relational recoil absorption?
Yeah, the stock shocks suck and don't last, therefor should be replaced, and will make the ride better, but the most efficient way to counter the vibration (if being caused by the road, as suspected) is to introduce a mass to absorb that vibration.
You should be well versed in the fundamentals of MgVg = MbVb and Vg = Pb/Mg = 2.2 m/s. Which, of course, explains primary and secondary recoil.
In the case of your truck, the vibrations will continue unless the momentum is interrupted (or absorbed) by an outside force (ie: the weight of the sand).
Trucks must be made for ride comfort under load and thus, there are trade-offs when the bed is empty. These trade offs become annoyingly evident if the surface you are driving on imparts a sectional vibration.
Try a small amount of energy absorbing weight (sand would work better than say, dumbbells because the sand molecules are less dense and will not reflect a large portion of the energy but instead absorb most of it) and along with decent shocks, you see if it doesn't make the ride better.
Sand is cheap, if you don't find you like to haul it around, you can always make some kids day by filling his sand box...
Yeah, the stock shocks suck and don't last, therefor should be replaced, and will make the ride better, but the most efficient way to counter the vibration (if being caused by the road, as suspected) is to introduce a mass to absorb that vibration.
You should be well versed in the fundamentals of MgVg = MbVb and Vg = Pb/Mg = 2.2 m/s. Which, of course, explains primary and secondary recoil.
In the case of your truck, the vibrations will continue unless the momentum is interrupted (or absorbed) by an outside force (ie: the weight of the sand).
Trucks must be made for ride comfort under load and thus, there are trade-offs when the bed is empty. These trade offs become annoyingly evident if the surface you are driving on imparts a sectional vibration.
Try a small amount of energy absorbing weight (sand would work better than say, dumbbells because the sand molecules are less dense and will not reflect a large portion of the energy but instead absorb most of it) and along with decent shocks, you see if it doesn't make the ride better.
Sand is cheap, if you don't find you like to haul it around, you can always make some kids day by filling his sand box...
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s13, I'm assuming by your screen name that you are/were a marine and you don't understand the physics of weight relational recoil absorption?
Yeah, the stock shocks suck and don't last, therefor should be replaced, and will make the ride better, but the most efficient way to counter the vibration (if being caused by the road, as suspected) is to introduce a mass to absorb that vibration.
You should be well versed in the fundamentals of MgVg = MbVb and Vg = Pb/Mg = 2.2 m/s. Which, of course, explains primary and secondary recoil.
In the case of your truck, the vibrations will continue unless the momentum is interrupted (or absorbed) by an outside force (ie: the weight of the sand).
Trucks must be made for ride comfort under load and thus, there are trade-offs when the bed is empty. These trade offs become annoyingly evident if the surface you are driving on imparts a sectional vibration.
Try a small amount of energy absorbing weight (sand would work better than say, dumbbells because the sand molecules are less dense and will not reflect a large portion of the energy but instead absorb most of it) and along with decent shocks, you see if it doesn't make the ride better.
Sand is cheap, if you don't find you like to haul it around, you can always make some kids day by filling his sand box...
Yeah, the stock shocks suck and don't last, therefor should be replaced, and will make the ride better, but the most efficient way to counter the vibration (if being caused by the road, as suspected) is to introduce a mass to absorb that vibration.
You should be well versed in the fundamentals of MgVg = MbVb and Vg = Pb/Mg = 2.2 m/s. Which, of course, explains primary and secondary recoil.
In the case of your truck, the vibrations will continue unless the momentum is interrupted (or absorbed) by an outside force (ie: the weight of the sand).
Trucks must be made for ride comfort under load and thus, there are trade-offs when the bed is empty. These trade offs become annoyingly evident if the surface you are driving on imparts a sectional vibration.
Try a small amount of energy absorbing weight (sand would work better than say, dumbbells because the sand molecules are less dense and will not reflect a large portion of the energy but instead absorb most of it) and along with decent shocks, you see if it doesn't make the ride better.
Sand is cheap, if you don't find you like to haul it around, you can always make some kids day by filling his sand box...
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I get it, the truck was designed to be comfortable when loaded... and since I drive the truck all the time without a load, it is way lighter in the *** end, thus causing it to bounce because there is not any weight to absorb or counteract the upward movement.... My thoughts were that if I took out the overload spring, since I don't tow anyways, it would reduce the upward movement and not cause the rear-end "hop" so much.
I'm sure the shocks are bad, they are going to be replaced. I'm trying to further improve ride quality without having to put sandbags in the bed.
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Don't get me wrong here, s13, I was in no way trying to belittle you, just trying to put it into the perspective of a fellow shooter. I had to sit and learn the physics part of it during a class to be a certified instructor and basically assumed the military gave similar weapons classes. They probably do, but just to those interested in becoming armorers.
Personally, I think the effect of removing the overload springs would be minimal, at best. But if you tried it and didn't like it, it would take no more effort to put them back on than taking them off will.
If the shocks don't remedy the situation to your satisfaction (and again, I think it will make it better, but not get rid of it completely), try it...
Personally, I think the effect of removing the overload springs would be minimal, at best. But if you tried it and didn't like it, it would take no more effort to put them back on than taking them off will.
If the shocks don't remedy the situation to your satisfaction (and again, I think it will make it better, but not get rid of it completely), try it...
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The reason I suggested the sand, was it has always been an automatic with truck owners in the extreme north in winter. Not only did the weight keep the tire tread planted better and you could spread the sand for traction if you did happen to get stuck, but a side benefit was also a smoother ride.
Hell, I grew up with a lot of guys never removed it in summer for that reason...
Hell, I grew up with a lot of guys never removed it in summer for that reason...