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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 04:28 PM
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I have also thought about this didnt really do any research, I have now gone a differnent way then what I had originally invisioned. I say go for it, I am interested on how well it will perform.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 04:30 PM
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alright guy ill chime in on this, Not being a prob but with having the knowledge and doing several bagged rides. first thing is dont even think about cheap parts, such as airbagit, fbi rides so on so forth check out something like avs and airassited.com for GOOD quality parts.

As for what your trying to do they will handle the power, my blazer puts out about 350 to the wheel and drags the body on the ground with not one issues its all on quality of parts. I cant tell u enough dont be cheap. Parts alone for just F,B will run u around 2 g's us. Thats good parts.

Secound thing is for what your trying to have it wont work well, Bags have a sweet spot anything above or bellow that will suck. So yes u can have your truck at just a bit lower then factory ride high with bags deflated but it will ruin them and will also ride like brick. Then u might git a good ride at factory hight, but when you lift it up more it will once again ride like ***. so it wont give youy best of both worlds but u could do it so its at a factory hight to get into then lift it an cruise with it lifted 4-5 inches and ride good.

No as far as if u do go threw with it the front wont be too bad if its 2 wheel its easy, plate lower control arm and add a bracket on frame and install bag between bracket and lower control arm. now 4 wheel drive will take a little more may require installing a universal strut bag assembly i dont no what ur suspension looks like but it could be as easy as a 2 wd install. The back you would have a few options. A complete 4 link or a simpler way that will work is removing a few leaf spring and installing the bag over the axel. If you do it right tho it would cost more money then buying a expensive lift kit that would prob ride real good.

Bags are awsome, my blazer rights amazing at full lift and on 22" rubber bands its all on the tinme you take and the way you do things. PM me with any questions.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 05:00 PM
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Can you even do bags and not have it lower. You know what I am saying weed? I mean that if you put bags in will the ride height be lower than normal. How could you adjust the "sweet spot". I guess if you understand then there is no point in me asking if you already know what I am asking. I was just asking questions to help you help your self.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Unperfected
Secound thing is for what your trying to have it wont work well, Bags have a sweet spot anything above or bellow that will suck. So yes u can have your truck at just a bit lower then factory ride high with bags deflated but it will ruin them and will also ride like brick. Then u might git a good ride at factory hight, but when you lift it up more it will once again ride like ***. so it wont give youy best of both worlds but u could do it so its at a factory hight to get into then lift it an cruise with it lifted 4-5 inches and ride good.

The back you would have a few options. A complete 4 link or a simpler way that will work is removing a few leaf spring and installing the bag over the axel. If you do it right tho it would cost more money then buying a expensive lift kit that would prob ride real good.
With the right length bags you will spend most of the time in the sweet spot and only when stationary or off road use the extreme limits of the bags, don't really see how they will get damaged though when many large off roaders use the same systems?

Don't the late Gen 3's have single leafs? or so few that removing them isn't really going to change the unloaded height? If we're looking for a lower parked height or lower height for high speed that won't necesarily work.

How are the Gen 4's set up? Could some of the design be used to make a similar coil spring mount for the chassis, but bag it instead?
 
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 05:17 PM
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Airbags! Lower to get in and race around raise to ride high =P


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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 05:19 PM
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the sweet spot on a bag is only 3-4" the rest of the ride is either too bouncy or too soft and just flops around. Yes the bigger the bag the bigger the sweet spot will be but again its all on the quality of parts you use. And the sweet spot is in the middle of travel so theres no way to have a good lower then factory ride and higher then factory ride. Now as far as damaging thenm a bag at full lift will tear the outter layer around it.... been there done that hopping...lol and a bag riding deflated will destroy the internals and stops. A bag is not design to ride at max lift and deflated.
 

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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 05:24 PM
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the thing with removing leafs is to remove only a few so that way u can get more lift without a stiff ride. I wouldnt do this myself but it can be done.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 05:33 PM
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that all depends on where and how they are mounted and the size of the bags....on how much of a sweet spot you can have
 
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 05:53 PM
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its really not even where the bag is mounted nore the sie of the bag, its really the psi thats in the bag that really gives you the sweet spot. big bags small bags can have the exact same sweet spot. it just depends on alot of things but in the end you want a certain amount of psi in a bag. running to much it bouncy and too little is sloppy. most bag like around 80 - 120 psi depending on how much weight is above the bag. I run my blaze at 115 in the front which is a little stiff but i need that to clear the 22's and 80 in the rear but thats with bags on bar not over the axle which would require alot les psi. there is so much u can learn about air ride look at different forums. Do alot of searching but it def can be done. I would love to have my ram be at factory hight to get into then lift up 5-6 inches to ride hight. And there is no touch systems that will lift to ride hight as soon as you turn ur key and they also have 3 different preset hights that can be programed.... check out forums first before u do it. You will find out that its alot of work to get a good ride. I have re done my rear 3 times in the blae before iam finally happy with it and spent prob 1000 in just the rear links and tabs and stuff over the last few years. Thats not including the bags and valves and stuff
 
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 06:03 PM
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Do it Weed!! bagging my ram are definitely in my future plans!! I'm lifted right now too.
 
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