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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 11:30 AM
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My brother has a 04 Hemi with a K&N intake on it, and I know for a fact that I cant beat him. I have an 02 SLT plus with new wires, plugs, cap, rotor, K&N filter, Superchips (performance tune), and exhaust. This truck just doesnt seem fast to me at all... But then again I did go from a 450hp GTO to this truck...
 
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 12:27 PM
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1994 Engine
Vehicles

Power (bhp)

Torque

5.9 (360) Ram 1500 and 2500, Van, Wagon
230@4,000
330@3200
5.9 (360) Dodge Ram 3500
230@4,000
330@2,800
5.2 (318) Dakota, Ram Van, Ram Wagon
220@4400
295@3200
5.2 (318) Ram Pickup
220@4400
300@3200
3.9 V6 Dakota, Ram Van, Ram Wagon
175 @4800
225@3200
3.9 V6 Ram Pickup
175 @4800
230@3200


The 5.9 is not making 250 horses stock, again, you are pulling numbers out of your a$$, this is whats irritating me, its like you go look at a number and add a couple more to it to try and make it look better. And dont forget your loss in tire size over the stock hemi that still has more horsepower, The only number you were accurate on was the torque. If you can prove it, then prove it, Im just saying, the numbers are not proving your point in any way. And the fact that you keep changing the numbers and giving ballparks on the 5.9 and rounding it up as much as you can is killing your point also.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 98cherryram
1994 Engine
Vehicles

Power (bhp)

Torque

5.9 (360) Ram 1500 and 2500, Van, Wagon
230@4,000
330@3200
5.9 (360) Dodge Ram 3500
230@4,000
330@2,800
5.2 (318) Dakota, Ram Van, Ram Wagon
220@4400
295@3200
5.2 (318) Ram Pickup
220@4400
300@3200
3.9 V6 Dakota, Ram Van, Ram Wagon
175 @4800
225@3200
3.9 V6 Ram Pickup
175 @4800
230@3200


The 5.9 is not making 250 horses stock, again, you are pulling numbers out of your a$$, this is whats irritating me, its like you go look at a number and add a couple more to it to try and make it look better. And dont forget your loss in tire size over the stock hemi that still has more horsepower, The only number you were accurate on was the torque. If you can prove it, then prove it, Im just saying, the numbers are not proving your point in any way. And the fact that you keep changing the numbers and giving ballparks on the 5.9 and rounding it up as much as you can is killing your point also.
If thats the kinda power he's getting or maybe even thinks he's getting (not bashing) let him think that. You have to remember he said he doesn't know what was done to it before he bought it, for all we know that thing could be bored out and be makin an assload of power.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 12:51 PM
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Bored out without any other kinds of modifications? And generally its stroking a motor on something like that. He would be running a 408 stroker kit, and he would know it if he was, that thing would be gnarly as hell and he wouldnt be talking about keeping up with a hemi, he would be beating them, a stroker kit on the 360 if I recall adds somewhere in the realm of 100-150 horsepower (these are ballpark numbers that could be way off) I dont make claim to know since I cant remember, I just remember hearing that they did crazy things for the 5.9

He doesnt even know much of what hes talking about, he suggested putting 1.7 roller rockers in and a cam? They cant clear 1.7's and a cam, you either have to get 1.6s and a cam or 1.7's without the cam unless you modify other parts.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 12:59 PM
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Like I said, if he can prove it to us, then I will believe him, so go for it if you want to.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 98cherryram
Bored out without any other kinds of modifications? And generally its stroking a motor on something like that. He would be running a 408 stroker kit, and he would know it if he was, that thing would be gnarly as hell and he wouldnt be talking about keeping up with a hemi, he would be beating them, a stroker kit on the 360 if I recall adds somewhere in the realm of 100-150 horsepower (these are ballpark numbers that could be way off) I dont make claim to know since I cant remember, I just remember hearing that they did crazy things for the 5.9

He doesnt even know much of what hes talking about, he suggested putting 1.7 roller rockers in and a cam? They cant clear 1.7's and a cam, you either have to get 1.6s and a cam or 1.7's without the cam unless you modify other parts.
Idk, I don't wanna bag on anyone or take sides I'm just tryin to keep the peace. Yes, there is a really good chance he is totally off with his estimates and such (sorry Rydesolow) but I really don't think we need to bag on each other like this. He said he was gonna post a vid and 0-60 times so we'll see and if he finds a Hemi to race and beats it, he made you eat your words and everyone who said he was full of chit should apologize cuz he proved your asses wrong. That's just my opinion on it though.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 01:04 PM
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I would love to see it, I have always been a fan of my magnum engines and that would just make me happy as can be, Im just also realistic and even though I would rather have my magnum than a hemi, I dont think I could easily beat one with minor modifications. If he does, then I would love to know what makes his truck so much different than mine. I have a superchips on the way here pretty quick, I remember it making a huge difference on my old red truck, but not that huge of a difference.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 01:24 PM
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That is right it is a big difference but not enough to over come 35's and 3:92's on my truck! I cant imagine 3:55's! And towing with 37's and 3:55's is like riding a bike uphill into the wind!!
 
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SMKNRAM
That is right it is a big difference but not enough to over come 35's and 3:92's on my truck! I cant imagine 3:55's! And towing with 37's and 3:55's is like riding a bike uphill into the wind!!
More baggage?
 
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 02:37 PM
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LOL. Ok, first of all, you don't know anything obviously. 1.6 comes in the magnum STOCK. 1.7 is offered straight from MOPAR if you'd like to upgrade. Also, harland sharp, makes a great 1.7 RR :X

Secondly, your stock numbers are WRONG. Get your information from a DYNO, or the DODGE website, or magnum history pages. Not out your ***, friend.

Thirdly, guess what- hemi's have transmissions too. Epic fail.

Fourthly, magnum 5.9's can't fit a cam? Hmm.. I wonder how mine runs then.. Epic fail.

Fifth, if you research your numbers a bit better, you will learn I was being conservative in my gains. But obviously, what do I know.

Also, coming from a 600HP LS7 showcar camaro ss as my summer vehicle, my ram also feels slow.



Aside from the flaming: I will datalog in about 20 min now with the Superchips data logger.
 
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