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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 01:06 PM
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Did someone get there feelings hurt?
 
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 01:09 PM
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by rusking


(1)I never stated i knew the properties of powered coating. This is why i gave scenarios. I didn’t know before this post how it was applied to surfaces. I only knew the properties of the metals. So i was explaining how, if, and then could be affect by the power coat adhering process. This is why it was in there

Powder coat melts before metal. The properties of metal we're irrelevant until you started talking about welding.

(2)Lol and no the stock motor can not produce enough heat to affect the power coat. Iv seen where people powder coat blocks. Not recommended due to cooling issues but the heat doesn’t effect the power coat

You think exhaust from a V8 engine can't reach 350'F? WOW...

(3)Explain how I was wrong? What? How and why would I explain what I was wrong about? You kind of lost me on that. Seems as if you saying to “argue both sides”


You were wrong because the way the sentenced was phrased is that TIG is the only process that can weld stainless.


(4) As I corrected in my revision and noted the point was irrelevant. It is 3x

(5) LOL point is its not? Look at the numbers. It is more than 3x hotter

Look at numbers? Melting range for stainless steel: 1,300-1,550C, Surface of the sun temperature: 5,400C. Now my major is in Mechanical Engineering, but i think even the average person can see that 1,550C is not 3x, let alone greater, than 5,400C.

(You’re in conclusion) You do? You speak for everyone on the board? Are you really claiming that? LOL a poll would solve that. I disagree and more than likely many other members would.

On everything? no. On this? yes. You've been here like 2 days and have already showed you don't know what you're talking about.

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You're at Campbell?

So your stating what out of this? That I’m wrong? You can’t power coat exhaust manifolds? I support my post with facts. I can give link to every single one. Many people have power coated exhaust manifolds. I seem to be unable to locate what it is I’m wrong about. Please feel free to point it out. If you don’t mind, provide facts that support it. If I’m wrong I will admit it as before on the 10x vs. 3x. If you read above me you will see that I’m not the only one saying it can be done and wont fail because of heat.
You can powder coat any metal part your little heart desires but it won't last long. Ceramic coating and high temp engine paints we're developed just for this reason. In addition to heat issues, engine blocks/manifolds aren't powder coated because fuel and oil permanently stains powder coat. I don't know what facts you're expecting when i have explained everything too you. You are arguing with me on two topics that I'm knowledgeable in.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 98cherryram
Then how come my buddies 08 Dodge cummins dually has powdercoated exhaust ever since about 3 days after he took the truck off the lot and they haven't had a single problem, look just as good as the day he did it, except when they are dirty.
I'm going to guess his exhaust is black? If so it's either Ceramic coated or High temp silicone powder. Applied the same way as powder coat.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 01:44 PM
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WOW lol. I started a thread and alot of infor lol. All of this going back and forth. Thats why i like this site. I get very different ipions lol. Thanks guys.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 03:26 PM
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Ok Got_Hemi44 it would seem that your having a lot of trouble reading what was posted. Reread it all and note that I never said anything about anything other than tig being 10x hotter. Nor did i state Tig was the ONLY type of welding for stainless steel. You presumed. And that my friend is the mother of at ****ups You have only proved a single thing in all this, that TIG burns 3x hotter and not 10x than the surface of the sun and other than that you don’t know what you speak of. I have stated my opinion and backed with facts and can show documentation and you argue grammar and twist words when all is written in plan text for you to reread. I don’t have the time anymore to educate you about how my original reply was correct and people that still use there trucks to this day have done it with success. I agree that you do posses knowledge in some of these areas and some more than me i.e. ceramic coating. I do not nor have I claimed to be an expert on power coating. My theory is that like an epoxy it changes properties once cured. Wiki states removal methods as high grade solvent and sulfuric acid. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powder_coating I have been unable to find ANY documentation stating a temp that will hurt it or ever heard of one doing so. But I have heard of its uses and the whole point once again was to say that the tips being power coated it perfectly safe.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Got_Hemi44
I'm going to guess his exhaust is black? If so it's either Ceramic coated or High temp silicone powder. Applied the same way as powder coat.
Still a guess, presumption, a hypothesized theory to be unknown as fact
Maybe ask the owner?
 
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 03:41 PM
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Lol so what do you all think? Are hemi and i just full of $h** and need to shut up or are people getting a kick out of this?
 
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 04:54 PM
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I'm guessing his exhaust is black because that's the only explanation to why he hasn't had any issues. There is a silicone based powder that is applied the same way as normal powder coat that is resistant to heat up to 1000F.

Originally Posted by rusking
Lol so what do you all think? Are hemi and i just full of $h** and need to shut up or are people getting a kick out of this?
I don't know, you tell me.

Originally Posted by xfeejayx
I don't mean for this to be a personal attack, but I'm with got_hemi on all points except his conclusion. welding hotter than the sun?!
 

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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by rusking
I will now, no oven I have EVER heard of can reach 1510c. O by the way that’s the melting point of 70% of stainless steels.

(Fifth) Your melting points average holds water but the sun? No sir, try 5505C Now in all my statements I was wrong in it burning 10x it only burns 3x.
read that one more time, slowly. I said slowly. read it again. 5505C > 1510C, meaning sun is hotter by 3x, not the other way around.

Originally Posted by Got_Hemi44
You said the metal burns 10x hotter than the sun. Well that temperature would be 55,050 C. Please show me a metal that requires that temperature to be melted.
negative, you added 0 makes that number...well, incorrect. Sun is between 4500 and 6000C

Also, your headers will not get to 1300C, they might MAYBE get to 1300F (unless you got a special/high perf application where you got that thing screaming). You can powdercoat your headers with a high temp powdercoat and it will hold up just fine. If you can powdercoat headers, you certainly can powdercoat exhaust tips.


you both have now lost credibility in this thread so please, desist from cluttering further. That being said, I appreciate it not getting personal and you both being professional about it.

edit: just read the end of the thread, so much for my appreciation of keeping it not personal
 

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