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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 11:51 AM
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know that feeling going though it rite now lol
 
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Old Mar 1, 2010 | 12:55 PM
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MAN this thread has gone WAY crazy!!
 
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Got_Hemi44
There is so much wrong in this post i do not know where to start. First, do you have any clue how hot your headers and exhaust pipes can get? Second, what does the melting point of stainless steel have to do with whether or not powder coat can withstand the heat? Third, you can MIG weld stainless steel along with TIG. Forth, Stainless steel doesn't have a fixed melting point, it changes with alloy composition. Fifth, on average stainless melts in the 1300-1550C range, the surface of the sun is 5600C.

So in conclusion we're left with two options:
A: You're not a welder
B: You're a welder who doesn't know anything

I know this because I have welding certification in just about everything except for underwater.
Lol ok, it would seem somewhere you took offense. I’m totally lost as to where but the facts still remain that you are wrong on at least on 4 of 5 of your points. The point your not wrong on is a question that show you didn’t read the post. I state “if the powdercoat requires the relaxing of the metal before powdercoat will adhere then it cannot be done. If it does not then it can.” This answers your question labeled second. Perhaps I could have elaborated more. I will now, no oven I have EVER heard of can reach 1510c. O by the way that’s the melting point of 70% of stainless steels. Now to debunk the other 4. Statement labeled (First) You say I have no clue how hot my exhaust gets…well I guess physics could be defied and my exhaust could reach in excess of 1501C hmmm wait no it cant! The average driving gets a exhaust manifold to reach 300C. You’re (Third) you can MIG and TIG stainless……your point? This is common knowledge. I stated it takes TIG…this is true. Never said it was the only. (Fourth) YES stainless steel does, this depends on the alloy composition but every single type DOES. I can give you a chart if you like. Making a statement that stainless steel doesn’t have a set melting point is like says Melt doesn’t. It all depends on how you read it. While all melts don’t have the same point every metal has its own. (Fifth) Your melting points average holds water but the sun? No sir, try 5505C Now in all my statements I was wrong in it burning 10x it only burns 3x. Had very little sleep and lets be realistic here, that has no impact on my post at all. 3x,10x,50x who cares how much hotter as long as its hotter. And last but not least your “in conclusion” you state we as if you hold the entire option of the board, I assure you that you do not. You’re (a) or (b) is a way to pick a fight. No before anyone ask I don’t want a fight. I am happy you have a certification in about everything but under water. I weld for Uncle Sam everything but water. There isn’t a civilian example I can think of that compares to welding armor plated steel on a tank with depleted uranium right behind it. So certification or not when meat meets the metal I do my job pretty well. My welds DO stop bullets and DO save lives.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 04:54 AM
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Ok, now that all said. POINT---> YES you can powercoat it lol.
I didnt mean to make anyone mad when i wrote that. I was a little heated. Got_Hemi44 maybe you and i started of on the wrong foot. What all certification do you hold bro?
 
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by rusking
Lol ok, it would seem somewhere you took offense. I’m totally lost as to where but the facts still remain that you are wrong on at least on 4 of 5 of your points. The point your not wrong on is a question that show you didn’t read the post. I state “if the powdercoat requires the relaxing of the metal before powdercoat will adhere then it cannot be done. If it does not then it can.” This answers your question labeled second. Perhaps I could have elaborated more. I will now, no oven I have EVER heard of can reach 1510c. O by the way that’s the melting point of 70% of stainless steels. Now to debunk the other 4. Statement labeled (First) You say I have no clue how hot my exhaust gets…well I guess physics could be defied and my exhaust could reach in excess of 1501C hmmm wait no it cant! The average driving gets a exhaust manifold to reach 300C. You’re (Third) you can MIG and TIG stainless……your point? This is common knowledge. I stated it takes TIG…this is true. Never said it was the only. (Fourth) YES stainless steel does, this depends on the alloy composition but every single type DOES. I can give you a chart if you like. Making a statement that stainless steel doesn’t have a set melting point is like says Melt doesn’t. It all depends on how you read it. While all melts don’t have the same point every metal has its own. (Fifth) Your melting points average holds water but the sun? No sir, try 5505C Now in all my statements I was wrong in it burning 10x it only burns 3x. Had very little sleep and lets be realistic here, that has no impact on my post at all. 3x,10x,50x who cares how much hotter as long as its hotter. And last but not least your “in conclusion” you state we as if you hold the entire option of the board, I assure you that you do not. You’re (a) or (b) is a way to pick a fight. No before anyone ask I don’t want a fight. I am happy you have a certification in about everything but under water. I weld for Uncle Sam everything but water. There isn’t a civilian example I can think of that compares to welding armor plated steel on a tank with depleted uranium right behind it. So certification or not when meat meets the metal I do my job pretty well. My welds DO stop bullets and DO save lives.
Going to make me do this again?....

I didn't take offense anywhere, i call people out when they're wrong.

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if the powdercoat requires the relaxing of the metal before powdercoat will adhere then it cannot be done. If it does not then it can.”
This answers your question labeled second. Perhaps I could have elaborated more. I will now, no oven I have EVER heard of can reach 1510c. O by the way that’s the melting point of 70% of stainless steels.
What does this have to do with anything? The only time you'd have to wait for the metal to relax is if you just finished welding it. If that's the case, who powder coats an item seconds after it was just welded? This is irrelevant to the point the exhaust heat will melt the powder coat. This also doesn't answer my question labeled second. You keep bringing up things that have no point to the topic.


You say I have no clue how hot my exhaust gets…well I guess physics could be defied and my exhaust could reach in excess of 1501C hmmm wait no it cant!


No ****. Your exhaust can however reach the temperature required to melt the powder coat right off the exhaust.


You’re (Third) you can MIG and TIG stainless……your point? This is common knowledge. I stated it takes TIG…this is true. Never said it was the only.


"i know that stainless steel takes TIG to melt the metal" Read your sentence again and explain how you were wrong.

Fourth) YES stainless steel does, this depends on the alloy composition but every single type DOES. I can give you a chart if you like. Making a statement that stainless steel doesn’t have a set melting point is like says Melt doesn’t. It all depends on how you read it. While all melts don’t have the same point every metal has its own.


I could hardly understand what you were saying on this one because of the poor grammar. You said the metal burns 10x hotter than the sun. Well that temperature would be 55,050 C. Please show me a metal that requires that temperature to be melted.

Fifth) Your melting points average holds water but the sun? No sir, try 5505C Now in all my statements I was wrong in it burning 10x it only burns 3x. Had very little sleep and lets be realistic here, that has no impact on my post at all. 3x,10x,50x who cares how much hotter as long as its hotter.

Point is, it's not hotter....

And last but not least your “in conclusion” you state we as if you hold the entire option of the board, I assure you that you do not. You’re (a) or (b) is a way to pick a fight. No before anyone ask I don’t want a fight. I am happy you have a certification in about everything but under water. I weld for Uncle Sam everything but water. There isn’t a civilian example I can think of that compares to welding armor plated steel on a tank with depleted uranium right behind it. So certification or not when meat meets the metal I do my job pretty well. My welds DO stop bullets and DO save lives.

I do because I'm right. My (a) or (b) is a way to give you two options, which after your last post, are still accurate. What's your rank and location?



Originally Posted by rusking
Ok, now that all said. POINT---> YES you can powercoat it lol.
I didnt mean to make anyone mad when i wrote that. I was a little heated. Got_Hemi44 maybe you and i started of on the wrong foot. What all certification do you hold bro?
You didn't upset anyone. This isn't a Toyota prius forum. If you don't have a thick skin you're going to be offended real fast.

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The whole point to the thread: You can powder coat your stainless exhaust tips but the heat from your exhaust will ruin the finish.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 11:19 AM
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hell my cousins 07 dually he just sprayed his with a high temperature spray paint black and hell it hasnt chipped or nothing looks like it was done professionally
 
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 12:10 PM
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Somebody is worried about rust on aluminised or steel exhaust, stainless lasts longer than the truck would I still wouldn't paint or powder coat it. the other two eh maybe on the back third certainly no where near the cat. no one sees it any way.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Got_Hemi44
The whole point to the thread: You can powder coat your stainless exhaust tips but the heat from your exhaust will ruin the finish.
Then how come my buddies 08 Dodge cummins dually has powdercoated exhaust ever since about 3 days after he took the truck off the lot and they haven't had a single problem, look just as good as the day he did it, except when they are dirty.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 12:42 PM
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I dunno why do birds fly? Why do I buy beer when it seems more like renting?
 
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Got_Hemi44
Going to make me do this again?....
Originally Posted by Got_Hemi44

I didn't take offense anywhere, i call people out when they're wrong.

I state “if the powdercoat requires the relaxing of the metal before powdercoat will adhere then it cannot be done. If it does not then it can.” This answers your question labeled second. Perhaps I could have elaborated more. I will now, no oven I have EVER heard of can reach 1510c. O by the way that’s the melting point of 70% of stainless steels.
What does this have to do with anything? The only time you'd have to wait for the metal to relax is if you just finished welding it. If that's the case, who powder coats an item seconds after it was just welded? This is irrelevant to the point the exhaust heat will melt the powder coat. This also doesn't answer my question labeled second. You keep bringing up things that have no point to the topic.

You say I have no clue how hot my exhaust gets…well I guess physics could be defied and my exhaust could reach in excess of 1501C hmmm wait no it cant!

No ****. Your exhaust can however reach the temperature required to melt the powder coat right off the exhaust.

You’re (Third) you can MIG and TIG stainless……your point? This is common knowledge. I stated it takes TIG…this is true. Never said it was the only.

"i know that stainless steel takes TIG to melt the metal" Read your sentence again and explain how you were wrong.

Fourth) YES stainless steel does, this depends on the alloy composition but every single type DOES. I can give you a chart if you like. Making a statement that stainless steel doesn’t have a set melting point is like says Melt doesn’t. It all depends on how you read it. While all melts don’t have the same point every metal has its own.

I could hardly understand what you were saying on this one because of the poor grammar. You said the metal burns 10x hotter than the sun. Well that temperature would be 55,050 C. Please show me a metal that requires that temperature to be melted.

Fifth) Your melting points average holds water but the sun? No sir, try 5505C Now in all my statements I was wrong in it burning 10x it only burns 3x. Had very little sleep and lets be realistic here, that has no impact on my post at all. 3x,10x,50x who cares how much hotter as long as its hotter.

Point is, it's not hotter....

And last but not least your “in conclusion” you state we as if you hold the entire option of the board, I assure you that you do not. You’re (a) or (b) is a way to pick a fight. No before anyone ask I don’t want a fight. I am happy you have a certification in about everything but under water. I weld for Uncle Sam everything but water. There isn’t a civilian example I can think of that compares to welding armor plated steel on a tank with depleted uranium right behind it. So certification or not when meat meets the metal I do my job pretty well. My welds DO stop bullets and DO save lives.

I do because I'm right. My (a) or (b) is a way to give you two options, which after your last post, are still accurate. What's your rank and location?





You didn't upset anyone. This isn't a Toyota prius forum. If you don't have a thick skin you're going to be offended real fast.

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The whole point to the thread: You can powder coat your stainless exhaust tips but the heat from your exhaust will ruin the finish.


(1)I never stated i knew the properties of powered coating. This is why i gave scenarios. I didn’t know before this post how it was applied to surfaces. I only knew the properties of the metals. So i was explaining how, if, and then could be affect by the power coat adhering process. This is why it was in there
(2)Lol and no the stock motor can not produce enough heat to affect the power coat. Iv seen where people powder coat blocks. Not recommended due to cooling issues but the heat doesn’t effect the power coat
(3)Explain how I was wrong? What? How and why would I explain what I was wrong about? You kind of lost me on that. Seems as if you saying to “argue both sides”
(4) As I corrected in my revision and noted the point was irrelevant. It is 3x
(5) LOL point is its not? Look at the numbers. It is more than 3x hotter
(You’re in conclusion) You do? You speak for everyone on the board? Are you really claiming that? LOL a poll would solve that. I disagree and more than likely many other members would.
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So your stating what out of this? That I’m wrong? You can’t power coat exhaust manifolds? I support my post with facts. I can give link to every single one. Many people have power coated exhaust manifolds. I seem to be unable to locate what it is I’m wrong about. Please feel free to point it out. If you don’t mind, provide facts that support it. If I’m wrong I will admit it as before on the 10x vs. 3x. If you read above me you will see that I’m not the only one saying it can be done and wont fail because of heat.
 
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