Fifth wheel for a 1500?
My 05' 1500QC 4x2 is rated at 8900 lbs towing, around 1650 payload capacity. Has anyone used a fifth wheel hook up on the 1500 QC? I cannnot find any engineering or tech specs. I am looking at getting a trailer and like the fifth wheel set ups. I have found several 27 footers under 7,000 lbs dry. Any help is appreciated. If you do have a fifth wheel set up, post pics.
You can tow a little one but you are going to work that gasser to an early grave. Tranny is not built to handle a load that big for very long. I've seen it done and have done it myself before I got my Cummins. my 2 cents
How is that? He has the same auto tranny found in the 2500/3500 trucks behind the Hemi. Sure, his engine won't pull as hard as a Cummins, but he's not going to kill his truck with a camper that's under 7,000 lbs. My advice would be to just make sure you always inspect your trailer brakes and keep them working in perfect condition. With a half-ton truck you don't want a load like that getting away from you. Trust me, it's not fun.
if you put in a tranny cooler it will help keep the tranny cool and extend the life a bit.
if you have a 6 foot bed you might need to look into getting a slider 5vr so you can manuver in tight areas easier.
MHO. the 1500's are good for bumper and small 5vrs. but at 27 feet that getting a bit long for a 1500. 20 feet is about as long as I would push a 1500, anything longer than that the 3/4 ton is needed.
I'm not saying it wont do it, it will. But the two weak points are the tranny and getting all that to stop. even at 7k you need to look at all the gear your gunna put in it and people. you might be overloaded once your said and done.
if you have a 6 foot bed you might need to look into getting a slider 5vr so you can manuver in tight areas easier.
MHO. the 1500's are good for bumper and small 5vrs. but at 27 feet that getting a bit long for a 1500. 20 feet is about as long as I would push a 1500, anything longer than that the 3/4 ton is needed.
I'm not saying it wont do it, it will. But the two weak points are the tranny and getting all that to stop. even at 7k you need to look at all the gear your gunna put in it and people. you might be overloaded once your said and done.
My father has a 3500 cummins and he pulls a 28ft 5th wheel. The truck handles it like a dream, but when you stow your gear, it will even cause the 1-ton (single wheel group) to squat a little. With a 1500, you might be picking your bumper off the pavement once you get the trailer loaded up.
1650 payload is for a truck with no options - if you've got yours loaded with features the payload goes down. Then it goes down more when you sit in it, put your wife/kids in it, luggage, etc. What's the tongue weight of a 27' 5th wheel?
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Why not?
The new ones are not that heavy.
I have a 26' 5th - 5960 dry (with allowances for water and propane).
960lb pin weight - so it counts as 5,000lbs. Probably only load it up with 500lbs more gear/good/beer.
I have an 02 1500 / 5.9L rated for only 7,000lbs (20" wheels).
Added a Roadmaster active suspension kit and I try to keep my speed at 55MPH. Get around 8-9 miles per US Gallon.
Nothing overheats - does not feel too scary. I may just hook up a basic 16' aluminum fishing boat behind there too!
The Hemi in a 2500 will not do better since that's a half ton tranny/motor in a 6100 lb truck. Towing-RPM torque is brutal.
Diesel is cool - but it's far more problematic to keep running - unless you work it hard weekly (at a minimum). Also - if you use it daily in your business - you will save a ton on fuel overall. Certainly enough to pay for the increased maintenance costs of idling a diesel all day long...
Dave
The new ones are not that heavy.
I have a 26' 5th - 5960 dry (with allowances for water and propane).
960lb pin weight - so it counts as 5,000lbs. Probably only load it up with 500lbs more gear/good/beer.
I have an 02 1500 / 5.9L rated for only 7,000lbs (20" wheels).
Added a Roadmaster active suspension kit and I try to keep my speed at 55MPH. Get around 8-9 miles per US Gallon.
Nothing overheats - does not feel too scary. I may just hook up a basic 16' aluminum fishing boat behind there too!
The Hemi in a 2500 will not do better since that's a half ton tranny/motor in a 6100 lb truck. Towing-RPM torque is brutal.
Diesel is cool - but it's far more problematic to keep running - unless you work it hard weekly (at a minimum). Also - if you use it daily in your business - you will save a ton on fuel overall. Certainly enough to pay for the increased maintenance costs of idling a diesel all day long...
Dave
that's pretty much crap. you don't have to idle the truck all day, nor do you have to romp on it once a week to keep it running. I have a couple of friends who did neither with no problems.
The problem with towing it behind a 1500 is that with a thousand pound load from the trailer, plus a driver at ~200, passenger at ~150 give or take, options such as stereo equipment or CBs or nerf bars, push bars, winches, grill guards, bug deflectors, maps, coffee cups and doritos in the cab you're getting pretty close to the payload capacity of the truck, and that's with nothing else in the bed. We all know they are underrated, but by how much?
The problem with towing it behind a 1500 is that with a thousand pound load from the trailer, plus a driver at ~200, passenger at ~150 give or take, options such as stereo equipment or CBs or nerf bars, push bars, winches, grill guards, bug deflectors, maps, coffee cups and doritos in the cab you're getting pretty close to the payload capacity of the truck, and that's with nothing else in the bed. We all know they are underrated, but by how much?
I saw an overloaded Chevy come flying past me about a year ago in Georgia in the middle of summer. If you stand on the blacktop long enough it will melt the bottom of your shoes, especially the jelly type sandals my niece wears. Saw him up the road about 3 miles later facing backwards, jack knifed and trying to mow over some pines. Not very pretty. I saw tire shreds where he went off the road from a blowout. To me it never makes any sense; to come so close to safety's limits; to put your family in danger or anyone elses for that matter. Nobody goes down the road expecting that something will happen. If you are overloading your truck per the manufactures label and are serious about this rig, upgrade to a 2500 CTD. If you don't please don't drive in Georgia or near me in South Florida. It's not like you overloaded your truck with some firewood and are going to go right up the road, you will be traveling probably many miles on the highways and byways with your rig.



