thank you abarmby...thats what i was looking for...now will new ones be suffice or should i just remove them the question is if the tech will warranty the work if they are removed?

 

Pretty sure that is NOT the master install kit, but rather the basic install kit or AKA "mini install kit" THIS is what you will get. The master kit is ~$100+ by itself and has all bearings/seals.

Motive uses Timken bearings which is why their kits have TMK as the end of their part numers.
LOOK HERE for all the kits for the 9.25 as they list all whats included.

Clutch pack retaining clips have been said by many that they aid in assembly of the carrier while in production. IMO, this is something a dealer had said to a customer on here or another board and it has been thrown around as if it's 100% true. I think it was said so the dealer can get paid for the warranty work for an entire intallation while doing a shotty go-around job that takes a fraction of the time. I did find a Chrysler based tech article that had said they keep the clutch packs evenly spaced and secure from moving around. I wish I could find the article but i cannot. So, because of that I have been a little hesitant in just removing them for fear of rapid wear but I'd rather remove them and have some slack/extra wear in there than have them ruining my whole rear end! Why else would Chrysler have new improved clips made rather than just removing them on the assembly line???
I dont know how many miles have been driven by the average guy who has had them removed??? But it seems like that is something that has only recently been done.READ THS

 

I know you said you can't swing the aftermarket LSD Jay, but something to consider is when I had my gears installed the shop DID NOT charge me any extra for the installation of the LSD since they were in there anyway and said it was only like an extra 10-15 mins to install the LSD at that point.

Might save you as much as a couple hundred to swing it now than having someplace have to install from scratch later...

 

Glad I read this. I've been saving up for the DTT but seeing I have a 4x2 and rarely see the off-road. I guess I can suck it up and add in the friction modifier. How long do you think the Auburn LSD should last under moderate(fun time on occasion) use before a cluck pack rebuild? Oh and someone mentioned hearing the infamous LSD engage clunking sound on simple turns(street), will this be present? I doubt it because I know of other trucks in the neighborhood that have LSD's and don't hear anything from them on turns. Guess I'll do a quick youtube search in the mean time.

To OP, http://moesperformance.com/index.php...ducts_id=10189 not sure if this is what they are mentioning but if it is, there yuh go.

 

That is a lot for me to swing hammer it really is I haven't worked for months and I'm tryin to make it thru school so funds are limited like my diff... And dirty if you look at the link in my first post it says it comes with a master install kit I was tryin to contact them to see what's really in it but all I got several x was the voicemail shrug...

 

Jay, when I did my Auburn, 456 and Master Kit, my guy needed nothing. The kit came with everything Hammer said in Post #2

 

The reason I went with an Auburn and not a DTT was because I had an Auburn in my '98 Dodge RCSB 1500 4x4 and it performed flawlessly for the 68k miles I had it in the truck. I did inquire about the DTT, but Detroit was being bought out of foreclosure by Eaton right at that time and the DTT for the Chrysler 9.25" was on back-order and nobody could give me a date for shipping. So if I wanted a LSD in hand when doing my 4.56 gears, it was gonna be an Auburn.

I think the whole thing about the "clutch packs wearing" was started by companies who make the gear based units.

Average life is stated by Auburn at 100k miles.

Some additional reading:

https://dodgeforum.com/forum/3rd-gen...p-defined.html

 

Thanks for the read.

Jay, Good luck man. You'll love the new gears once you get em (please don't settle for any whine noise no matter what the tech says). Btw what are you upgrading from ? I went from my stock 3.21's haha I used to be at 85-90mph at just around 2k rpm, made for an interestingly fast cruise to Vegas.

 

I'm going from a 392 to the 456 it has to be replaced they are the same price why not... The kit I'm buy is the link I posted in post 1 456 gears and master install kit from motive bought from moes, what fluid should I get for my set up?

 

Ditto; I bought my gear, DTT and master install kit from Moe's and everything needed was there. I also added the axle seals just because it was apart and could easily be done. I have the DTT and it doesn't make any noise. It locks up instantly, I can't imagine a clutch type doing any better. However either differeintial is an improvement over OEM. Good luck..