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Installed Pulstar Plugs today....Seriously.

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Old May 10, 2011 | 10:22 AM
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I was reading about them and apparently they have a capacitor built into the spark plug that magnify the power of the charge delivered. I dabble in electronics and this to me is so simple that its a brilliant idea . The next time I change plugs I will give them a try.
 
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Old May 10, 2011 | 12:39 PM
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^^^ Link please. I fail to believe (capacitor) so far.
 
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Old May 11, 2011 | 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by weedahoe
^^^ Link please. I fail to believe (capacitor) so far.
http://www.pulstar.com/
The picture diagram says that they contain a capacitive element. Haha I had to check this out for myself.
 
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Old May 11, 2011 | 09:36 AM
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Ok you guys have piqued my interest. I am an electrical engineer, and this could make some sense.

So I looked at the website, and they do show a simple, single plate cylindrical "capacitive element"



But I will tell you right now, based purely on electromagnetic theory (yes I have studied this and taken the classes during college) there is NO way that a single plate capacitor can do what they claim

capacitor-based circuit that captures energy normally wasted by spark plugs and generates a spark with 20,000 times greater energy than any spark plug.
20,000 times the spark? we are talking about fempto, or pico farads here. Granted at high voltages (like ignition coils) these make a bigger difference vs your standard 12V, but I have a VERY hard time believing this 20,000 times more powerful comment they claim.

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Old May 11, 2011 | 08:35 PM
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20,000 times??? Impossible like you said. That type of voltage would melt the spark plug. I'll stick with my NGK copper V-powers. Less than $50 shipped to my door.
 
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Old May 12, 2011 | 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by nateroach
Ok you guys have piqued my interest. I am an electrical engineer, and this could make some sense.

So I looked at the website, and they do show a simple, single plate cylindrical "capacitive element"



But I will tell you right now, based purely on electromagnetic theory (yes I have studied this and taken the classes during college) there is NO way that a single plate capacitor can do what they claim



20,000 times the spark? we are talking about fempto, or pico farads here. Granted at high voltages (like ignition coils) these make a bigger difference vs your standard 12V, but I have a VERY hard time believing this 20,000 times more powerful comment they claim.

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It does not even take an electrical engineer to figure that one out! Just a ticketed electrician can (like myself) Its all a gimic that they they use to suck you in...Just like those E3 plugs, I had a buddy put them in his F-150 (yes it is a ford BUT :P) He had to change them at 20K they did not last long at all, not to mention he only really had great power until 10K...all those gimics are just ways to lure you in...


On a side note, I put in some NKG laser platinums at 55K (pulled the originals out so it was needed) NEVER AGAIN! I just had to change them at 75K, it was so bad it was misfiring. Replaced them with Champions, as I was doing it I pulled 2 plugs out where the electrode was pretty much gone.

So I think if your putting anything but copper-tops in and get good performance and long life all the power to you...but it seems that the majority stay with coppers


just my two cents...
 
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Old May 12, 2011 | 07:16 AM
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If I still had access to an oscilloscope I might be tempted to at least give it a try and see if there is a measurable difference between a regular plug and these pulsar. I ran with platinum's in one of my plug changes and aside from longevity I did not notice any performance gains. The other plug changes standard plugs over copper no difference there either except for electrode wear. 160k and this is my 3rd plug change I bought my truck with 30k on it. So far the best looking set was the platinum with minimal electrode wear and the coloring was light tan. I was just curious if there was a real difference or if it was just a psychological thing after spending $13 dollars a plug you convince yourself it really works. My original thought is that a standard plug still ignites the fuel mixture and regardless of how hot the spark is its still going to create the same explosion to fire the cylinder. The compression and the fuel mixture would be playing more of a part in the combustion then if the spark is standard or magnified by a hotter spark.

I bought a cold air intake system and shopped around but after being told that it would significantly give me better gas millage I thought Ok I'll give it a try. I took an average milege check and installed the system and ran it again and checked for over a month. What I found was I was trying so hard to see if there was a differnce that I changed my driving habits and gained 1 mile a gallon but realized I hated the way it sounded all the time. I put the stock setup back on and decided I would continue checking and it was still the same since I had altered my driving habits I was still at the same mileage without the cold air intake on it. The placebo effect my wanting to justify spending the money on the cold air system made me alter my driving to actually gain that 1 mile a gallon.

I did run into a guy who did a project on a dyno and pretty much said the same thing I did that there was no measurable difference on the dyno after he had tested many cars with them on and off and many kinds of cold air induction systems.

I liked that there was some science behind the new plugs but I was skeptical and it sounds like such a simple idea that it may help but with out any imperical data to measure it with its all based speculation.
 
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Old May 12, 2011 | 11:01 AM
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My $1.78 Chapions run fine. I managed to pull a 6.86 sec on a 0-60mph so with my lift and combo so thats good enough for me.
 
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Old May 12, 2011 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by weedahoe
My $1.78 Chapions run fine. I managed to pull a 6.86 sec on a 0-60mph so with my lift and combo so thats good enough for me.

Nice I just installed new champions so it might be a while before I try them out by then the price may drop or someone may have some impartial data on how well they work. I would like to see some dyno stats after installing them though.

The new programmer is the next expense before I buy $13 dollar spark plugs ...lol
 
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Old May 12, 2011 | 10:09 PM
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I Know some of you guys have run platinum NGK's with mixed results, but what about iridiums?? I'm thinking of running some NGK IX IRIDIUM since I'm due for a plug change 60k and still running the stock plugs.

Does anyone have any experience with these?

http://m.oreillyauto.com/mt/www.orei...n_jtt_redirect

I think autozone has them for about $8ish.
 
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