Push Button 4x4
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Either can break. I had the electric shift on a Blazer and used it extensively off-road. Never had a problem. The electronic transfer case is only $150 option. The $500 option is an AWD system that also has 4w Low. My Ram has the manual shifter also, but I wouldn't have turned it down or have reliability concerns if it had the electric xfer case.
It's been my experience that electrical systems are considerably more reliable than mechanical systems.
It's been my experience that electrical systems are considerably more reliable than mechanical systems.
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just about every 4x4 or 6x6 vehicle Ive driven has been manual and has always shifted no problem. the Air actuated 6x6 on the M35A2 two and a half ton military trucks and the same system adapted to the 5 tons was good, but had problems if you had an air leak.
the worst is the one on the PLS 10x10 (yes it will go into 10 wheel drive) something is always hangin up in the transfer shifting power to the front two axels. the HET although it has the same drive train minus one of the front axels doesnt have nearly the same issues.
my ram, even when running at 55, shifting into 4H there is only a slight bump as the gears catch. I would atribute that to the torque that is comeing off the engine. $l comes in with more of a thud for the same reason.
shifts back into 2H with no issues. besides, having the manual shifter sitting under a 6 speed just looks COOL!!!
[IMG]local://upfiles/7365/AEAA2EAEA4A548CE855834C21CCC729B.jpg[/IMG]
the worst is the one on the PLS 10x10 (yes it will go into 10 wheel drive) something is always hangin up in the transfer shifting power to the front two axels. the HET although it has the same drive train minus one of the front axels doesnt have nearly the same issues.
my ram, even when running at 55, shifting into 4H there is only a slight bump as the gears catch. I would atribute that to the torque that is comeing off the engine. $l comes in with more of a thud for the same reason.
shifts back into 2H with no issues. besides, having the manual shifter sitting under a 6 speed just looks COOL!!!
[IMG]local://upfiles/7365/AEAA2EAEA4A548CE855834C21CCC729B.jpg[/IMG]
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the system in the M35 is a'ight. The problem is that it has no indicator as to weather or not the system actually engaged properly. Also i had a transfer case shift into low on my driver when we hit a large bump coming down a mountainside in northern Iraq and it blew out the transmission and transfer case... that was fun.
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ORIGINAL: Drew
just about every 4x4 or 6x6 vehicle Ive driven has been manual and has always shifted no problem. the Air actuated 6x6 on the M35A2 two and a half ton military trucks and the same system adapted to the 5 tons was good, but had problems if you had an air leak.
the worst is the one on the PLS 10x10 (yes it will go into 10 wheel drive) something is always hangin up in the transfer shifting power to the front two axels. the HET although it has the same drive train minus one of the front axels doesnt have nearly the same issues.
my ram, even when running at 55, shifting into 4H there is only a slight bump as the gears catch. I would atribute that to the torque that is comeing off the engine. $l comes in with more of a thud for the same reason.
shifts back into 2H with no issues. besides, having the manual shifter sitting under a 6 speed just looks COOL!!!
[IMG]local://upfiles/7365/AEAA2EAEA4A548CE855834C21CCC729B.jpg[/IMG]
just about every 4x4 or 6x6 vehicle Ive driven has been manual and has always shifted no problem. the Air actuated 6x6 on the M35A2 two and a half ton military trucks and the same system adapted to the 5 tons was good, but had problems if you had an air leak.
the worst is the one on the PLS 10x10 (yes it will go into 10 wheel drive) something is always hangin up in the transfer shifting power to the front two axels. the HET although it has the same drive train minus one of the front axels doesnt have nearly the same issues.
my ram, even when running at 55, shifting into 4H there is only a slight bump as the gears catch. I would atribute that to the torque that is comeing off the engine. $l comes in with more of a thud for the same reason.
shifts back into 2H with no issues. besides, having the manual shifter sitting under a 6 speed just looks COOL!!!
[IMG]local://upfiles/7365/AEAA2EAEA4A548CE855834C21CCC729B.jpg[/IMG]
what the. how come i dont got my cupholders liek that.... mine pop out !
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According to the factory service manual it only uses electrical input for shifting. No vacuum or air input.
SHIFT MECHANISM
The transfer case is operated by an adjustable floor
mounted shift linkage. The transfer case shift lever
is directly attached to the shift sector. The sector
operates the range and mode forks within the transfer
case. A straight line shift pattern is used with a NEUTRAL
detent. Lever range positions are imprinted in
the shift ****.
SHIFT MECHANISM
Operating ranges are selected with a dash
mounted shift selector switch. The shift selector
switch provides a input to the Transfer Case Control
Module (TCCM) to indicate the driver’s desire to
change operating ranges. The TCCM uses this input,
along with input from the transfer case mounted
mode sensor and information from the vehicle’s bus,
to determine if a shift is permitted. If the TCCM
decides the shift is permitted, the TCCM controls the
shift motor, mounted to the exterior of the transfer
case, to perform the shift.
SHIFT MECHANISM
The transfer case is operated by an adjustable floor
mounted shift linkage. The transfer case shift lever
is directly attached to the shift sector. The sector
operates the range and mode forks within the transfer
case. A straight line shift pattern is used with a NEUTRAL
detent. Lever range positions are imprinted in
the shift ****.
SHIFT MECHANISM
Operating ranges are selected with a dash
mounted shift selector switch. The shift selector
switch provides a input to the Transfer Case Control
Module (TCCM) to indicate the driver’s desire to
change operating ranges. The TCCM uses this input,
along with input from the transfer case mounted
mode sensor and information from the vehicle’s bus,
to determine if a shift is permitted. If the TCCM
decides the shift is permitted, the TCCM controls the
shift motor, mounted to the exterior of the transfer
case, to perform the shift.
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It's been my experience that electrical systems are considerably more reliable than mechanical systems.
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ORIGINAL: HEMI_OFF_ROAD
There alot more mechanical items in the electronic operated motor for the electronic shift than there are for the floor shift. The reason for the floor shift is because the relaibility is better. The same goes for when trucks had the option of manual locking versus automatic hubs. It is simply a conveniance for the elctronic on the dash. As for me, I like the floor mount because it matches the rest of the trucks big *****, dont mess with attitude and appearance. I purposely bought an SLT so I didnt have to have the electronic shift since it is standard on the laramie. My neighbor across the street that has a 3500 4x4 also bought the SLT for this same reason.
It's been my experience that electrical systems are considerably more reliable than mechanical systems.
I agree the motor would likley be the weak link in the electrical system, but how do you know "The reason for the floor shift is because the relaibility is better"? As for hubs the only one I've had break was a manual one on a Ford Ranger.