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Old Oct 15, 2011 | 02:16 PM
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Today i just fitted a metal plate between the EGR valve and the pipe instead of the gasket and blocked it , till now everything is normal no check engine light , slight improvement in throttle response
I've found that 100% of the time, getting rid of ANY federally mandated emission function is beneficial to performance. Unfortunately, over here in the 'States, if you are in a vehicle inspection state, doing so is an automatic FAIL and even if the state DOES NOT require inspections, it is illegal. You will go to jail, you will not be permitted to pass Go and you won't get your damn $200!!! LOL...

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Don't get me started on Pep Boys Next mailer you get copy this and mail it back to them. By "relearn" you mean they relearned the ETC ?

Chrysler Group vehicle fluid systems do NOT require regular flushing. These systems
include: engine oil, transmission oil, axle lube, brake fluid, power steering fluid, and
refrigerant. The only exception to this requirement are published in the vehicle
maintenance schedules, e.g. engine coolant.


Exceptions to this recommendation include only those instances where a failure has
occurred and/or the system has become compromised, contaminated or overheated
beyond the normal operating range.

Chrysler Group does NOT recommend aftermarket chemicals to flush the engine,
transmission, brake or steering systems. Chemicals contained in these products can
damage the system elastomeric components, and contaminate the component fluid,
leading to loss of system/component durability and service life. When necessary, only the original approved system fluid should be used to flush these components using
approved equipment.
Didn't I basically say that way back in like post #7? LOL...

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I dropped this car off at the dealer this morning roughly 8 hours ago and still there has been no call regarding this issue... I'm hoping they don't do the same thing telling me they have no clue. I did ask about the thumping noise and was told by them that this is expected after the vehicle is "worn in". Not sure how much I believe that. He said there were about 30 little rubber things around my front tires and one of them was causing it. I forget what they were called.
Probably a bushing. It's not uncommon for a bushing to get repositioned a hair just by lifting a vehicle off the ground, which basically stretches out the suspension and then lowering the vehicle which seats all the weight back on it. However, any decent mechanic would know that a quick shot of a lubricant should shut it up!

Well Code, I hate it for you and it's gonna be an expensive lesson learned, but I bet I know ONE PLACE you won't be taking your truck for service anymore...
 

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Old Oct 15, 2011 | 02:55 PM
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Yeah! Bushings are what he said they were. So could it be that my vehicle was improperly lifted? I don't know if they had to lift my vehicle or not at pepboys but I was for sure NOT hearing this before I took it there. Is this something I can fix with the lube? The dealer said it requires two guys to pinpoint which one is the problem and can take a long time.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2011 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by HammerZ71
Didn't I basically say that way back in like post #7? LOL...
Are there not numerous threads on this board where people reiterate something previously posted?
 
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Old Oct 15, 2011 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by HammerZ71
I've found that 100% of the time, getting rid of ANY federally mandated emission function is beneficial to performance.
I ve been reading on the net that deleting the EGR like i did without using a tuner to delete the EGR will throw a code and make the truck slower with no power and with rough idling, i only drove 10 miles after deleting and nothing happened , do u think when i drive more miles all that will happens ???
 

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Old Oct 15, 2011 | 03:54 PM
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Now the freakin dealer is telling me there's nothing wrong with it. I explained the idling problem to them and how it doesn't happen when the car is first started and they are getting ready to close. A whole ****ing day and all they did was drive the car around after i TOLD them how to reproduce the problem now I wont have it back until MAYBE monday because they are closed tomorrow... God this is all a hassle. Three mechanics and nobody knows whats wrong. I was supposed to be taking diving lessons this weekend but cant now because I had to spend that god damn money on this bull****.

Why wait the whole god damn day not calling me sooner to tell me the problem cannot be reproduced is the question I would have liked to ask... I had to call them just for them to tell me this **** and when I explained how to reproduce this problem (LIKE I ****ING TOLD THEM THIS MORNING) he said they wont be able to try it until monday because again, they are closing...
 

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Old Oct 15, 2011 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by TNtech
Are there not numerous threads on this board where people reiterate something previously posted?

Hence the "LOL" and the smiley face...
 
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Old Oct 15, 2011 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by CodeBlox
Now the freakin dealer is telling me there's nothing wrong with it. I explained the idling problem to them and how it doesn't happen when the car is first started and they are getting ready to close. A whole ****ing day and all they did was drive the car around after i TOLD them how to reproduce the problem now I wont have it back until MAYBE monday because they are closed tomorrow... God this is all a hassle. Three mechanics and nobody knows whats wrong. I was supposed to be taking diving lessons this weekend but cant now because I had to spend that god damn money on this bull****.

Why wait the whole god damn day not calling me sooner to tell me the problem cannot be reproduced is the question I would have liked to ask... I had to call them just for them to tell me this **** and when I explained how to reproduce this problem (LIKE I ****ING TOLD THEM THIS MORNING) he said they wont be able to try it until monday because again, they are closing...

This is why I do ALL the work within my capability myself. To date, I've only paid someone to do my gear swap and LSD install because I've never set a ring and pinion. I know how, but have never done it. Maybe on a weekend, 12 year old play-toy truck I'da tried it, but not at what was a three year old, $30k+ truck at the time. Only exception was I did have a mechanic who I've known for a few years do my transmission fluid change the last time because I'm at my mom's helping her with a health issue and I would have had a health issue if I'd have slopped transmission fluid on her driveway!

There are VERY few who I'd trust to do much more than pump gas in my vehicles. Just seen and heard about too many inept people/places working on vehicles these days.

But times have changed in this country. When I was a kid and not even a teen yet, my old man would MAKE ME come out and help him work on his trucks and my mom's cars. Now the mommy and/or daddy take the thing to the dealership and have everything done while the 17 year old son sits his a$$ in his room playing video games and surfin' the net. I was 13 years old the first time I was told that I was going to work with him for my summer vacation at his shop and I wasn't there a week before I was welding canopy frames. Learned a lot of things coming up I use ALL THE TIME today...
 

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Old Oct 15, 2011 | 04:59 PM
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Hate to make the generalization but a lot of mechanics are freaking criminals... I was looking through that link of horror stories about pepboys so thats why I say that.

My old truck was a 1989 toyota pickup with a manual transmission and while I didn't know much about cars, my dad did and he actually took the whole thing apart and rebuilt the engine. That car never gave me any troubles at all. I'm 22 now, but I did frequently go out and watch him work haha, even though I never knew what I was looking at. All I ever did was hold tools lol. This new dodge I have belonged to my dad who passed roughly two years ago and I am trying my best to maintain it. I never saw my dad take it to the mechanic at all, if he wanted to check something, he popped the hood up and knew what he was looking at.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2011 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by HammerZ71
Where you would find the EGR valve and tube on your 2500 Hemi you'll see these:



Which would be standard Mopar parts PN 1-53032739AA = EGR block plate and bolts and PN 04891312AA = EGR tube delete for intake.

Pickup trucks above a certain GVRW (basically 3/4 ton and larger trucks) do not have to conform to the same emission standards as 1/2 ton trucks which basically must conform to the same standard as passenger cars.

You DO NOT have an Exhaust Gas Recirculation system, you lucky bastard... LOL...

This is NOT your problem.

I've posted it MANY times before, I wouldn't let Pep Boys add air to my tires!!!


Since the truck DID NOT have this issue prior to going to Pep Boys, I think it would be beneficial to know exactly WHAT "routine maintenance" work they performed? Did they clean the throttle body? Because your issue sounds like they damaged the IAT to me and this component is located right behind the throttle body...
Hey, so on my '08 I can do a delete on the EGR? What side effects can I expect? Better mileage? Would it run richer? On my old '84 I removed the smog pump and I notice better power and better gas mileage.


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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 10:22 AM
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So it only stalls when you are comming to a stop when in drive? It will idle fine in park? Did they change the filters in the tranny when they changed the fluid or did they just do a flush?
 
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