3rd Gen Ram Tech 2002-2008 Rams: This section is for TECHNICAL discussions only, that involve the 2002 through 2008 Rams Rams. For any non-tech discussions, please direct your attention to the "General discussion/NON-tech" sub sections.

2wd vs 4wd rear end difference?

Old Apr 24, 2012 | 11:19 AM
  #1  
fj5gtx's Avatar
fj5gtx
Thread Starter
|
Record Breaker
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,810
Likes: 105
From: PA
Default 2wd vs 4wd rear end difference?

2004 Dodge Ram 1500 4x4 QC

Local junkyards are telling me that there is a difference between a 4wd and a 2wd rear end (the rear one of course). They don't know what it is, but the "numbers are different".

Is anyone aware of what the difference is? That shortens my list of donors!

Thanks,
Paul
 

Last edited by fj5gtx; Apr 24, 2012 at 11:23 AM. Reason: more info!
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2012 | 04:43 PM
  #2  
63T-Bolt's Avatar
63T-Bolt
Rookie
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 52
Likes: 0
From: Tulsa, OK
Default

No difference in them at all, both are 9.25 with the same brakes, 4x4 might have LSD and the 2wd might not.


I have a 9.25 from one that was totaled out, been trying to sell it..... Might be cheaper than the salvage is wanting....
 
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2012 | 04:50 PM
  #3  
fj5gtx's Avatar
fj5gtx
Thread Starter
|
Record Breaker
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,810
Likes: 105
From: PA
Default

Dealers have different part numbers between 2wd and 4wd on the empty housing. My LSD clips broke and ground into the bearing support, so I need a good housing.

Must be something different between 2 wd and 4 wd. I can't imagine why it'd be different, but they are somehow different. I'm leery of buying a 2wd version for my 4x4 truck until I know what is different.

Regards,
Paul
 
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2012 | 04:57 PM
  #4  
dirtydog's Avatar
dirtydog
Moderate User
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 17,003
Likes: 21
From: Albany, NY
Default

No difference as far as fitment goes when your a 2wd installing a 4wd rearend. I dont think it has anything to do with Open or LSD equip either.

The 4wd has bump stops and the 2wd does not. This means you could install a 4wd on a 2wd but not the otherway around unless you fabricated up the bump stops. 2wd's dont need bump stops.
I'd imagine the "tiedowns" for the brake lines might be in a slightly different place, but who cares. Throw a couple of zipties or metal band wraps to hold them securely in place IF thats the case.
I found THIS and it actually looks like the brake lines spot is the same.
I really think the bump stops are the only difference. Maybe cut them off yours and weld them on the new one???
 
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2012 | 05:16 PM
  #5  
fj5gtx's Avatar
fj5gtx
Thread Starter
|
Record Breaker
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,810
Likes: 105
From: PA
Default

Originally Posted by dirtydog
No difference as far as fitment goes when your a 2wd installing a 4wd rearend. I dont think it has anything to do with Open or LSD equip either.

The 4wd has bump stops and the 2wd does not. This means you could install a 4wd on a 2wd but not the otherway around unless you fabricated up the bump stops. 2wd's dont need bump stops.
I'd imagine the "tiedowns" for the brake lines might be in a slightly different place, but who cares. Throw a couple of zipties or metal band wraps to hold them securely in place IF thats the case.
I found THIS and it actually looks like the brake lines spot is the same.
I really think the bump stops are the only difference. Maybe cut them off yours and weld them on the new one???
That link didn't work for me. I hope you're right... anyone have detailed pics of a 2wd housing?

Thanks,
Paul

Paul
 
Reply
Old Apr 27, 2012 | 07:25 PM
  #6  
dirtydog's Avatar
dirtydog
Moderate User
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 17,003
Likes: 21
From: Albany, NY
Default

www.*********.com/forums/showthread.php?t=265859


dodge talk is starred out (one word)
thats where I took the pics from

Lets try this evasive manuvere that DF cant block/restrict. Click on the first link and scroll to the last post. That is the link I used. http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=...m=EGMB&rd=pref
btw, the 4th one down on the list is the actual thread linked directly into DT. It's 2 pages and on the 2nd page is that link.

4x4 rear end 1st pic


2x4 rear end 2nd pic
 

Last edited by dirtydog; May 25, 2012 at 06:28 PM.
Reply
Old Apr 30, 2012 | 10:49 PM
  #7  
TrueDogman's Avatar
TrueDogman
Captain
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 597
Likes: 33
Default

Presently in the process of putting a 2wd rear end into a 4wd truck. Yes, bump stops are missing for the 2 wheeler. However, I have air bags....which eliminate the requirement for bump stops.

If you have any questions, shoot me a PM.
 
Reply
Old May 1, 2012 | 03:21 PM
  #8  
fj5gtx's Avatar
fj5gtx
Thread Starter
|
Record Breaker
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,810
Likes: 105
From: PA
Default bumpstops are over rated :-)

I looked at my bumpstops, doesn't look like the rubber ever came into contact with them. I don't 4 wheel this truck (at least not yet). Also thinking they're not really doing much, they don't sit much higher than the axle tube. I suppose if it came down really hard *maybe* it'd dimple the tube, but I'm thinking those brackets might be over kill. Either way, if I wanted to add some they'd be an easy fab. Not much point of sawing off the originals.
 
Reply
Old May 1, 2012 | 03:23 PM
  #9  
fj5gtx's Avatar
fj5gtx
Thread Starter
|
Record Breaker
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,810
Likes: 105
From: PA
Default pinion angle?

Originally Posted by TrueDogman
Presently in the process of putting a 2wd rear end into a 4wd truck. Yes, bump stops are missing for the 2 wheeler. However, I have air bags....which eliminate the requirement for bump stops.

If you have any questions, shoot me a PM.
Wondering if the spring brackets might be at a different angle, if the 2wd is lower than the 4wd they might do that to optimize and keep the joints as straight as possible.
 
Reply
Old May 1, 2012 | 08:31 PM
  #10  
TrueDogman's Avatar
TrueDogman
Captain
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 597
Likes: 33
Default

Heres another pic for everyone.

Both 03 quads. Black one is 2 wheel drive. Housings look the same to me...except for the bump stops. Diffs are sitting a little different on the floor...due to the brake rotors on the black one.

Name:  IMG_1094.jpg
Views: 7531
Size:  162.3 KB
 

Last edited by TrueDogman; May 1, 2012 at 08:34 PM.
Reply

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:14 AM.