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Old Aug 7, 2013 | 07:58 PM
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Got the P0420.
Yup, you 100% need to take care of the rear o2 sensors.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2013 | 09:10 PM
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Follow up dumb question. . .is there only one rear? And by rear you mean after the cat?
 
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Old Aug 7, 2013 | 09:52 PM
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https://dodgeforum.com/forum/3rd-gen...ving-cats.html
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by cr8zynelly
Follow up dumb question. . .is there only one rear? And by rear you mean after the cat?
Yes, after the cat. And there are two of them.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 09:21 AM
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Good to know
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 01:16 PM
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there are quite a few threads on this in addition to teh one hammer posted if you just do a search for non foulers
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ewing111
there are quite a few threads on this in addition to teh one hammer posted if you just do a search for non foulers
Yes. Thanks and thanks Hammer. I saw that thread before and fowarded the info to my friend in need. I searched as much as I could handle before posting. I'm just trying to get as much info as I can before going foward with the fix. He has tried something like this that he called "spacers" but he put them on every O2 sensor. So Im trying to determine the exact ones he needs to due with P0420 code. I am also a little confused about the bit with SOS pad. Basically I can see how frequent this problem is and he has dumped so much money into fixing that I wanna steer him straight once and for all cause I know he has to pass emissions soon and he's to the point of giving up but I know with proper research and help that we can fix his issue. Sorry for the longwindedness and thanks for everyone's help!!
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by cr8zynelly
Yes. Thanks and thanks Hammer. I saw that thread before and fowarded the info to my friend in need. I searched as much as I could handle before posting. I'm just trying to get as much info as I can before going foward with the fix. He has tried something like this that he called "spacers" but he put them on every O2 sensor. So Im trying to determine the exact ones he needs to due with P0420 code. I am also a little confused about the bit with SOS pad. Basically I can see how frequent this problem is and he has dumped so much money into fixing that I wanna steer him straight once and for all cause I know he has to pass emissions soon and he's to the point of giving up but I know with proper research and help that we can fix his issue. Sorry for the longwindedness and thanks for everyone's help!!
I had this exact code running high flows. If you do the non fouler trick it will fix it. I have been using it for going on five years without an issue.

Oh, don't use an sos pad, get 0000 steel wool. They sell it in most home improvement stores.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2013 | 11:18 PM
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Another cheap and quick fix would be to put in a cooler thermostat although not as foolproof as using non-foulers. The reason this sometimes works is because it will richen the A/F mix. The more fuel/less air produces a slightly longer burn in the cylinder so the exhaust gasses are slightly cooler as they are scavenged into the exhaust.
Many times it's the heat of the gasses being pulled faster by a more open exhaust that causes the CEL, they simply haven't cooled enough when they reach the sensor.
Of course the non-foulers get the O2 out of the mainstream into cooler air so they fix this one instance as well.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2013 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by HammerZ71
Another cheap and quick fix would be to put in a cooler thermostat although not as foolproof as using non-foulers. The reason this sometimes works is because it will richen the A/F mix. The more fuel/less air produces a slightly longer burn in the cylinder so the exhaust gasses are slightly cooler as they are scavenged into the exhaust.
Many times it's the heat of the gasses being pulled faster by a more open exhaust that causes the CEL, they simply haven't cooled enough when they reach the sensor.
Of course the non-foulers get the O2 out of the mainstream into cooler air so they fix this one instance as well.
I run a 170 thermostat and it doesn't do anything for the downstream o2 sensors code he is throwing.
 

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