changing tranny fluid and filter
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RE: changing tranny fluid and filter
You can do it yourself. Just be prepared for a little mess. Also, are there bands we have to adjust like the 46rfe trannies? If so, I'd be sure to adjust the bands. I'd rather spend the little bit of money (since I used to work at the dealership) and let someone else do it, although you can do it yourself. Be sure to use approved ATF.
By the way, how much was the tranny shop gonna charge you?
By the way, how much was the tranny shop gonna charge you?
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RE: changing tranny fluid and filter
If you opt to do it yourself:
1) Keep all receipts for fluid and filter and "log" it in some way for warranty issues later, if they arise,
2) Have high-temp silicone sealer on-hand if the new filter doesn't come with a real gasket to replace the gasketless factory assembly (some do, some don't),
3) either get a drain plug "kit" you can install in the stock pan while it is off to lessen the mess next time (which encourages more frequent fluid and filter changes), or buy the great aftermarket aluminum pan with plug and 3 qt greater capacity--perfect time to do this conversion, imho.
Other than being messy with the "drainless" pan the first time, it is no biggy.
Here are some tips:
1) spread lots of stuff to catch spills and leave a pan bolt installed but loose in all four corners when "breaking loose" the factory silicone seal. Sometimes the pan can be pretty well stuck and without the bolts still in place to catch it, one can drop it. This is a REAL mess!
2) if using silicone to reseal, do NOT use too much. A thin bead all the way around is sufficient. Many use too much and squish it out inside the pan where it can eventually break loose and get in the fluid. Needless obstruction to the pickup screen.
All the best.
1) Keep all receipts for fluid and filter and "log" it in some way for warranty issues later, if they arise,
2) Have high-temp silicone sealer on-hand if the new filter doesn't come with a real gasket to replace the gasketless factory assembly (some do, some don't),
3) either get a drain plug "kit" you can install in the stock pan while it is off to lessen the mess next time (which encourages more frequent fluid and filter changes), or buy the great aftermarket aluminum pan with plug and 3 qt greater capacity--perfect time to do this conversion, imho.
Other than being messy with the "drainless" pan the first time, it is no biggy.
Here are some tips:
1) spread lots of stuff to catch spills and leave a pan bolt installed but loose in all four corners when "breaking loose" the factory silicone seal. Sometimes the pan can be pretty well stuck and without the bolts still in place to catch it, one can drop it. This is a REAL mess!
2) if using silicone to reseal, do NOT use too much. A thin bead all the way around is sufficient. Many use too much and squish it out inside the pan where it can eventually break loose and get in the fluid. Needless obstruction to the pickup screen.
All the best.
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RE: changing tranny fluid and filter
And make sure the flanges on the pan and tranny, where the pan meets the tranny are clean and dry BEFORE you put the silicone on so it will stick, and not float, and eventually push out leaving that wonderful OH S**T spot on the driveway or garage floor. Its not hard, but like mentioned above, get the drain plug kit. Its much easier the second time. A friend of mine that used to mechanic for a Dodge dealer told me the best thing you can do for a Dodge automatic tranny is change the fluid at regulat intervals. So. I did on my old 93 Dakota 5.2L. I just sold it with 208,000 miles. Original engine and tranny---and still pulling strong. Take it for what its worth, changing the fluid yearly is cheap insurance, and much more that an oil change in terms of work
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RE: changing tranny fluid and filter
If you do it, double check your manual on fluid type. The 04 calls for ATF+4. All I can find in parts stores around me is +3. I asked the Dodge parts guy the difference (without the obvious answer of "1"). He says the +4 is designed to absorb more heat that the newer trannies are generating than the +3 was & that the +3 can burn & fail in those apps. Double check the stuff at AutoZone,etc to verify what it is specifically. Some of it says "For Dodge/Chrysler" and it's still +3.
Problem is, the only place I've been able to find the +4 is the dealer. I don't know how much difference it makes, but I went ahead and used the +4 for my transfer case change (haven't done the tranny yet). I'd just hate to be SOL if something went wrong with the wrong fluid in it.
Problem is, the only place I've been able to find the +4 is the dealer. I don't know how much difference it makes, but I went ahead and used the +4 for my transfer case change (haven't done the tranny yet). I'd just hate to be SOL if something went wrong with the wrong fluid in it.
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RE: changing tranny fluid and filter
I'm not sure if it meets the requirements or not, but you might check out B&M Trickshift.
It has to my knowledge been one of the premier tranny fluids out there. I ran it in my 93 5.2L Dakota with great success, but I don't know for sure on the new trucks, and I don't have an automatic in my new truck--it will be getting NEO shortly, along with the differentials and transfer case
I just looked up trick shift on the B&M site and it doesn't appear that it meets the +4 requirement
It has to my knowledge been one of the premier tranny fluids out there. I ran it in my 93 5.2L Dakota with great success, but I don't know for sure on the new trucks, and I don't have an automatic in my new truck--it will be getting NEO shortly, along with the differentials and transfer case
I just looked up trick shift on the B&M site and it doesn't appear that it meets the +4 requirement
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RE: changing tranny fluid and filter
Thanks for all the input!! I was told that the trannie's in the 3rd gen. rams don't have bands to adjust due to it being electrical? That adjusting bands was a thing of the past. Is that true? I guess I should ask the dealer. By the way my truck is a 2003 with 30,000 miles and was planning on doing it soon. I just don't trust the dealer to do it right, or anyone else for that matter, But I will make sure to get the mopar atf4 at the dealer, cause I have also noticed that auto stores don't carry it.