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Old Jan 16, 2019 | 09:31 AM
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Yes. Just went thru this. MDS equipped hemis have different cam and lifters. I rebuilt with non mds cam and lifters. MDS solenoids are under intake and were difficult to remove due to rust. Although We werent being to careful we broke all 4 taking them out of the block. They are plastic. Replaced the solenoids with similar plastic plugs.
Purchased a HP tuner and software. Went into the settings in the PCM and disabled MDS. Not many miles on it yet but so far so good
 
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Old Jan 16, 2019 | 03:42 PM
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Did they even have MDS in 05? Thought that was and advent of the 09 redesign? Or wast that the VVT thing?
From my knowledge that is when they started MDS is 2005
 
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Old Jan 16, 2019 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by HeyYou
I think they are relatively easy to get to, but, in an application that DOESN'T use MDS, there won't be connectors for them in any event. It is my understanding that the pcm energizes the solenoids to disable those cylinders, so, simply not having them hooked up *should* work just fine.

Now, if the truck the engine is going into actually HAS MDS, and expects things to change when it tries to engage it, (it will still cut fuel to those cylinders) THAT will be a problem. The engine block should be the same though, but, I think cam, and lifters are different as well, so, it isn't just a matter of adding the solenoids. Easier approach might be to disable MDS in the programming.
Cam and lifters should be the same. As I rebuilt a 2500 block and used the cam and lifters from that motor and put the motor in a 1500 MDS truck, no issues.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2019 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by MoparFanatic21
Cam and lifters should be the same. As I rebuilt a 2500 block and used the cam and lifters from that motor and put the motor in a 1500 MDS truck, no issues.
if he ( does as you suggested ) and plans on putting the mds solenoids into the 2500 engine that does not have mds cam and lifters he is in for issues
 
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Old Jan 16, 2019 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TrueDogman
if he ( does as you suggested ) and plans on putting the mds solenoids into the 2500 engine that does not have mds cam and lifters he is in for issues
Well then I must have a miracle engine. 2500 everything with MDS selenoids.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2019 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by HeyYou
I think they are relatively easy to get to, but, in an application that DOESN'T use MDS, there won't be connectors for them in any event. It is my understanding that the pcm energizes the solenoids to disable those cylinders, so, simply not having them hooked up *should* work just fine.

Now, if the truck the engine is going into actually HAS MDS, and expects things to change when it tries to engage it, (it will still cut fuel to those cylinders) THAT will be a problem. The engine block should be the same though, but, I think cam, and lifters are different as well, so, it isn't just a matter of adding the solenoids. Easier approach might be to disable MDS in the programming.
Yes, you are correct the cam and lifters are in fact different between the MDS and NON-MDS systems.
 
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