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Intermittent crank no start - then cranks and starts on second attempt. 3rd Gen 5.7

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Old Sep 19, 2020 | 07:33 PM
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3rd Gen, 2005, 87,500 Miles, Ram Truck, 5.7 Hemi, 1500, 4x4, Short Bed .Quad Cab,. SLT

I have Intermittent crank no start on FIRST attempt too start -- Crank and START on SECOND attempt eeverytime.
Engine has died completely at random times while driving. Engine lites appears and glows at this point.
Had a code of PO-335 Crank Position Sensor.

Went to dealership replaced the CRANK POSITION SENSOR. Expensive.

At this point vehicle has not died while driving at random times and conditions..
But does INTERMITANTLY Cranks No Start on First Attempt --. But Does Crank
And Start at SECOND attempt Reliably everytime.

Where should I start my own diagnosis. Or if you have a good idea of what the go too solution is.
I would appreciate the help and any info.
I don't have a scan tool. I use o'reilly's scan tool parts guys too look for my codes.
I would appreciate the info.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2020 | 09:27 PM
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Problem is, it works the second time. Do you hear the relay click when it doesn't start? If it's replaceable, think I would go for the starter relay first. Don't know how integrated that is in the TIPM.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2020 | 03:28 AM
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Okay understood. I will start there at the TIPM box.
I should have a better understanding at that point.
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Old Sep 20, 2020 | 08:36 PM
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Starter Fuse and Relays
are not interested too TIPM board.
And testable and replaceable.
Pictures should give a good idea about my TIPM.

​​​​​​So these relays are expansive fuse is not.
Can these relays be tested.?
 
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Old Sep 20, 2020 | 08:43 PM
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Fuse # 14. Starter fuse. Pink square at very top second one in towards the left. ..
​​​​​Relay #72 Very bottom left square box style relay. Starter solenoid relay...

 
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Old Sep 30, 2020 | 12:37 AM
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Here are some pictures of my TIPM. So how do I go about testing the starter fuses and Relays to starter solenoid relay ?
I'm happy too discover that these fuses and Relays are not intergrated into the TIPM board. Issue is
Crank No Start on first try then Then crank and start on the second try.
 
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Swap the starter relay with another one. See if the problem is gone.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2020 | 04:46 PM
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Had a similar problem on my 05 hemi 1500 (with 87k miles too!) After messing around I crawled underneath and the nut holding the lead to the starter had backed way off and the lead was loose. Climb under yours and check it if you havent already.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2020 | 12:31 AM
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Default Sealed the two relays and guess what ? ? ?

Originally Posted by HeyYou
Swap the starter relay with another one. See if the problem is gone.
So I did swap the the relays with one another.
Then tried too recreat the( Crank No Start then Crank And Start on second Attempt ).

It started every single time 10 times before test Drive and 10 times after.
I tried turning key too on and waiting for all dash lites to go out. It started just fine. Repeatedly
Then I tried turning key all the way too run and start. It started just fine. Repeatedly. Thankyou for
the swapping suggestion.

I also double checked wires at the starter and starter solenoid. Clean nice and tight. Thankyou for the suggestion.

So now my next question is what online parts retailer should I use? OEM replacement or equvivelant.
and would like to know which brand is top dog.
Orieleys wants 22 bux a piece And Won't do a confirming volt meter test on my relay.
I need two of these relays..
 
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Old Oct 3, 2020 | 09:55 AM
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Any of a number of mopar parts sites. I think they all use the same database anyway...... at least, their sites all look amazingly similar.
 
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