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Old Nov 28, 2021 | 10:39 PM
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Well I went to NAPA on a research mission and it turns out that all models use the same flywheel, so the only question that remains is the CPS ring . Further research has shown that there is NV 4500 for Ram 2500 5.9L gas in both 4WD and 2WD . Also revealed was there is both a 11 inch and 12 inch clutch available, and a flywheel thats fully solid for better performance. My trip to one of the local Pull it yards failed to yield any desireable Dodge stuff, Though I did find most of the stuff I needed for my Dale Earnhardt Monte Carlo. So it was a good day. I have one more Pull it yard to go to, thats apparently even bigger, so maybe I have better luck there, otherwise I guess I buy it all new.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2021 | 06:55 PM
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Ok , this parts hunt was more successful, Found a 2wd 3rd gen 1500 with a manual trans, has everything but part of the clutch system. I got the steering column ( even has a key ), clutch pedal, shift lever today. Truck was not in a position for me to get the trans out. So I guess I'll go back tomm with my jack and an old couch cushion to drop it onto. I don't know if it will bolt up, it's not the same engine probably a 3.7 /5.2. Even if it doesn't fit, for the price it might be worth it for a future project, or a core. Then I pull the pp and flywheel, and get a much better idea, of what I really need.
 
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Old Dec 5, 2021 | 10:57 PM
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Well I liberated the manual trans from the junkyard Ram, as well as the PP , CP , Flywheel, Boot, Brake pedal.
1st lie : Dodge uses same flywheel, this flywheel uses 8 bolts. The 360 crank has 6.

Information learned: This appears to be an NV 3500, may or may not bolt up, ( probably not ) I don't have it out of the back of the Jeep yet to see. However it does appear to have a similar bolt pattern and does have the same notch in the casing where the CPS would go. I did not see a CPS, and there was no tone ring. Of concern was some apparent wear on the end of the main shaft where the pilot bearing goes. So I will probably use this for a core as well as the other parts. Or keep them for now I don't know.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2021 | 10:37 PM
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It would appear that I will be the Pioneer for this project !
 
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Old Dec 8, 2021 | 07:08 AM
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You pretty much are. Only a year and half model years for the 360 in the 3rd gen, no one ever bothers to wanna convert it unless it has a hemi lol.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2021 | 08:44 PM
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Thanks Mag on the 2nd /3rd Gen tip ! I know another place with a Dakota that has the Flywheel and CP and PP still in it, if its 3.9 ( and probably is ) I can take my tone ring and see if it has same bolt pattern, if it does I can bring flywheel back, and see if it bolts up with the tone ring behind it, and if the CPS will still fit where it goes and not have any interference. I might just crank it up and see if it lights, but first I have to finish replacing pan gasket and cleaning and painting pan. ( all this painting eats up a lot of time. ) They also have some Dodge Bellhousings and transmissions.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2021 | 07:49 AM
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Flywheel is different between V-6 and V-8 motors, the 6 unit will not work on an 8.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2021 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by HeyYou
Flywheel is different between V-6 and V-8 motors, the 6 unit will not work on an 8.
What determines that? the 3.9 / 318 and 360 are based off the same block, that is probably why this flywheel is different, a newer style V6, what other way is there for the CPS to get its readings?
 
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Originally Posted by Skatulaki
What determines that? the 3.9 / 318 and 360 are based off the same block, that is probably why this flywheel is different, a newer style V6, what other way is there for the CPS to get its readings?
The crank sensor reads the 'windows' in the flexplate/flywheel, the six cylinder feller has a different pattern than the 8. It has three 'single' windows, and three 'double' windows, spaced evenly around it. The V-8 unit has 8 equally spaced windows. Putting the V-6 flywheel on a V-8 will result in an engine that won't start.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2021 | 09:32 PM
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Ok , I kinda knew that much, Sounds like what you are saying is that I need a Flywheel with attached Flexplate? Ok that is what I am trying to find. The Dakota I was wanting to yank the flywheel from probably doesn't have a flexplate ring, I was going to use the one that come off my TC and R46 ! And just put it on behind the FW and manually see if everything spins, then go from there.
 
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