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Old Nov 19, 2023 | 10:12 AM
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I can't see inside real well, what are the electrical connectors for? You have a hot wire in there to keep things burnin?
 
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Old Nov 19, 2023 | 11:26 AM
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Sorry, it's MINERAL OIL not mineral spirits!






It's resistance wire. 2.3-2,4 ohms wrapped around the wick. Soak the wick with MINERAL OIL then let the wick ends lay in the MINERAL OIL. Using a 12-volt auto battery for supply.

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Old Nov 19, 2023 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Daves69
Sorry, it's MINERAL OIL not mineral spirits!






It's resistance wire. 2.3-2,4 ohms wrapped around the wick. Soak the wick with MINERAL OIL then let the wick ends lay in the MINERAL OIL. Using a 12-volt auto battery for supply.

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OK, that makes much more sense to me. Thank you.

What pressure do you run your air at?
 
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Old Nov 19, 2023 | 05:29 PM
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3-5 psi

Lol, I'll use spirits in a carb setup can when I make it this winter.
 

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Old Nov 28, 2023 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by steve05ram360
Fuel pump seal at the top of the tank.

I have an 02 dak that had the same thing, small evap leak which became a big evap leak and fuel flowing out of the pump seal. It needed a new pump and when it was swapped in, codes went away, leak went away.
I reset the CEL and now only have the gascap notification on the dash. Where is the top of the fuel pump you’re talking about? None of this started until after the fuel pump was replaced
 
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Old Nov 29, 2023 | 07:26 AM
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I reset the CEL and now only have the gascap notification on the dash. Where is the top of the fuel pump you’re talking about? None of this started until after the fuel pump was replaced
On top of the tank. If this started after the pump was replaced, have a chat with whomever replaced the pump.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2023 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by AKCallahan
I reset the CEL and now only have the gascap notification on the dash. Where is the top of the fuel pump you’re talking about? None of this started until after the fuel pump was replaced
gas cap notification?? It could be that one of the vacuum connections to the top of the tank is not seated correctly. If your able to, reach up and find the 2 (should be 2) vent connections that go to the evap canister and give them a gentle push inward to see if it seats. Not sure if the connector is plastic so dont go all gorilla on it and have it break on you. If you have to drop the tank then double check the fuel pump seal.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2023 | 10:45 PM
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On top of the tank. If this started after the pump was replaced, have a chat with whomever replaced the pump.
Looks like I’m going to have to, again, because every other reputable shop I tell this to says to take it back instead of wanting to just take my money to fix their screw up.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2023 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by steve05ram360
gas cap notification?? It could be that one of the vacuum connections to the top of the tank is not seated correctly. If your able to, reach up and find the 2 (should be 2) vent connections that go to the evap canister and give them a gentle push inward to see if it seats. Not sure if the connector is plastic so dont go all gorilla on it and have it break on you. If you have to drop the tank then double check the fuel pump seal.
Alright, so two vent hoses on top of the tank itself… that need to go down firmer if not seated all the way, right? I just want to confirm I’m reading this right.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2023 | 02:52 PM
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I dealt with that problem for years, then I licked it, mebbe ten years ago. The codes were P0456 and P0440. Never been back since. Nothing you haven't been told, probably but if you replaced the LDP, then the issue is you probably overlooked a cracked hose. Keep in mind I have a Dakota, so some of this prob won't apply to your truck. Some OLD responses of mine copied from other threads....
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I've dealt with small evap
leak. Usually the under hood hoses and those underneath by the gas tank are cracked and leaking by now. Squeeze every inch of them and look for cracks, especially near the ends. If you find any, cut off and reattach Some hoses run under the battery tray too. I greatly reduced the frequency of the codes by eliminating the leaks, but they didn't completely disappear till I replaced the leakdetectionpump, which is underneath the truck, roughly below the driver's seat. The pumps are shared among many dodge vehicles.... I got mine from an 09' junkyard PT cruiser.

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Concentrate on these two things.... emission hoses and leak detection pump.

I had that code intermittently for years. It would come and go, but I was always able to find a window in which to get the emissions done.


I got tired of the light every few months though, so I started looking at all the hoses running from under the battery tray and found a cracked hose there and on a hose that ran to the PCV valve (if I recall correctly). I never would have known the hose was split if I didn't squeeze it, so squeeze and observe as you go along. It's usually the ends that crack. I cut the split ends off with a knife and reattached with zip ties. Also looked under the truck at the hoses running to charcoal canister and those seemed okay. Well the problem lessened in frequency, but didn't entirely go away. The final fix was to replace the NVLD pump (leak detection pump), which is located underneath the truck, roughly below the drivers seat in my quad cab.




The pump was one I got from a wrecked 2009 Chrysler PT cruiser. The pump is WIDELY used across many models and years of Chrysler vehicles, so I found the latest model vehicle that had one in the junkyard and it worked. Cost me only a few bucks and not a peep out if it since. If you search on the pump in ebay, it will show you the models that it fits. There are many aftermarkets (cheap too) but I stick to OEM with these things.
 

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