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4.7 intermittent mis fire user load during light throttle no codes

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Old Feb 9, 2025 | 12:35 PM
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Before of after the trans rebuild? They are frequently victims of that exercise.
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Old Feb 9, 2025 | 12:36 PM
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If you don't have a way to tow it there, get a AAA membership and let them tow it.

You didn't say whether it was Mopar or not. These trucks don't do well with aftermarket sensors and the CPS is the most sensitive one of them all.
I don't remember which brand and I wasn't paying dealer I have an acquaintance who is a Dodge technician who is going to lend me the scanner with the misfire counter and relearn my transmission for me. Free to be clear
If it is CPS why would the CPS not throw a code and it give me a code for the transmission instead
 
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Old Feb 9, 2025 | 12:52 PM
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The programming isn't perfect.... and the PCM can get confused about what is really going on..... I once worked on a car that was setting a trans code... which I spent a couple hours troubleshooting, reading various resources, until I stumbled across a 'side note' in one of the manuals, that some sensor or other failing could also set that code. The sensor was completely unrelated to the system is was working on... but, when I checked, sure as shooting, the sensor was bad. 15 dollar part solved the issue....
 
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Old Feb 9, 2025 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by apjcustoms
I don't remember which brand and I wasn't paying dealer I have an acquaintance who is a Dodge technician who is going to lend me the scanner with the misfire counter and relearn my transmission for me. Free to be clear
If it is CPS why would the CPS not throw a code and it give me a code for the transmission instead
Alright, well, I hope the scanner works out. I know how it can be when $$$ is short. Save this link to the Mopar CPS on Amazon ($78) just in case. Sometimes you don't have a choice, esp if you have a cheap Autozone or some other crap CPS giving you trouble.
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Old Feb 10, 2025 | 01:21 PM
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Alright, well, I hope the scanner works out. I know how it can be when $$$ is short. Save this link to the Mopar CPS on Amazon ($78) just in case. Sometimes you don't have a choice, esp if you have a cheap Autozone or some other crap CPS giving you trouble. https://www.amazon.com/Mopar-5602866...ustomerReviews
I'm between a real rock and a hard place. At the moment it's hard for me to just throw almost a hundred bucks at that one sensor when I look at the truck was specifically having issues in that third gear range with the transmission. It wasn't a misfire. It was something to do with that solenoid and I'm thinking that it's probably the solenoid. I would have a hard time believing that if the CPS was bad, it would only be causing issues in that third gear range under those specific conditions. But maybe I'm wrong taking everything that I've experienced and detailed in this post. Does that really seem like it's a CPS and not the transmission solenoid?
 
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It won't start at all now though???
 
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Old Feb 10, 2025 | 01:24 PM
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It won't start at all now though???
Starts idles and shuts down
 
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Old Feb 10, 2025 | 01:25 PM
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Starts idles and shuts down
Another fun one to diagnose.......
 
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Old Feb 10, 2025 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by apjcustoms
any thoughts about what I mentioned relating to the PCV valve ? Or lack of an EGR?
Also I had the O2 sensor glowing hot and still couldn't find t couldn't get to eit to budge it's in the worst possible position imaginable so I hit it with more blaster and walked away for a bit I don't know what else to throw at it
So I just read through this entire post again. I see no specific mention, did you replace BOTH upstream sensors or just one? IIRC the 4.7 used a dual bank upstream O2 along with dual cats, one in each head pipe. It appears this is an 03? It is possible they were different then what I've worked on personally. 03 was in the era of no EGR on the 4.7 so maybe they change cat setups too.

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I could the hear the pressure bleeding off in the valve cover like 100% no mistaking where it was coming from. The gauge was losing pressure and I could pinpoint where that was at the button but I can also hear the pressure working its way through the top of the head at the same time
I put the new plugs on the passenger side where everything seemed fine. No plugs in the driver side yet. I'm going to go back out tomorrow and give it a go. When I was testing the side that was reading 150 it had to step up to that pressure. It didn't just go there on the first revolution. Had to crank a couple times. I'm assuming it's going to be the same thing for that side and in between the revolutions and the engine turning over I could hear the pressure bleeding off just to be clear cuz I appreciate the information you're giving me right now
I'm assuming that valve is open but should it close as the engines turning over if everything is ok with valve train ?
Its normal for comp tests to take several revolutions to build the gauge pressure to peak compression. This is one reason why a proper tester should hold pressure in the gauge system until you release it, the other is so you can actually read it after crank the vehicle from a different position.

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Another fun one to diagnose.......
At this point almost sounds like an anti theft is triggered, is there a red light dot blinking on the dash, lower right side
 
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Old Feb 15, 2025 | 07:30 AM
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So after replacing the map sensor and just going through a lot of the electrical, the truck runs fine. The problem is the transmission is hunting specifically at light throttle. The TCC is engaging and disengaging now. How do I fix it?
 
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