Ok Air Ram, normally I'm on board with you but you are saying removing the clutch fan and adding an electric that draws 65 amps on startup and 45 amps continuous off the stock electrical system is a good trade out vs. a fan that only draws heavy amounts of air when it's needed and basically free spins the rest of the time? I believe if I'm not misquoting you you said going to an electric fan will add 10-12 RWHP. I agreed with you if you use a fan that draws about 9-15 amps ( I have one ) but 65 then 45 amps? Please explain.
Not "trolling" you like others but I'd like to hear you reasoning.
BTW, I'll more than likely be getting your set-up in the future. Going to work great with the modified exhaust. Some people don't get an engine is an air pump - the more air in and out, the more response and/or power, whatever you want to call it.

 

I’m saying removing the clutch fan and installing a Lincoln Mark VIII electric fan which will flow 4000+CFM... It will draw an initial 65+Amps and continuous 45amps on the High speed setting...The Lincoln Mark VIII fan I have installed uses an 18" fan blade...

Your clutch fan is at least 10HP restrictive. I personally saw the results on my 4.7L with the fan installed and then with it removed... it made 10HP more with it removed. And there are others who have seen very similar results with there 5.7Ls... so its safe to assume you will see the same thing.

The GREAT thing about the Lincoln Mark VIII fan is that it pulls so much air it is only on for a few seconds... less than 15 seconds on my truck... and in that 15 seconds it turns the radiator from WAY TO HOT TO TOUCH to ice cold ... so its OFF more often than its on... So even though it may draw a HUGE amount of amps to run it... it will not over run your alternator because its off just a few seconds after it turned on...


I have mine hooked up to the HIGH SPEED side and I have NOT had ANY issues what so ever, I also drive with my Fogs , headlights ON all the time as well... I’m still on my FIRST stock February 2002 battery and 85,000+ miles on it with no signs of failing...

YES If I watch the electrical gauge I can see the fan draw the needle down to the left slightly... but as soon as the fan turns off the needle goes right back to where it should be....

And with over 2MPG increase by removing the clutch fan... just backs up that the clutch fan does in fact rob you of HP all the time... not just when its engaged..


SPEED SAFE, AIR RAM

 

I have a K&N CAI intake kit on my 3rd GEN ram, and upon installing it, I noticed a gain of 2 MPG immediately. I do believe they work, my overhead going down the high way I would never get above 15.4. On long trips now I average 21.5 at 65mph. But that is with a CAI AND a flowmaster 40 series cat back exhaust system>>>>>>>>

I got 19 MPG keeping it around 60-65, freeway only no A/C with cruise most of the way, 42 miles each way.....return trip was about 17 with A/C and not watching my speed too closely. Fully stock BTW. City driving? Forget about it....

 

food for thought

http://www.jwardell.com/mini/jcwintake.html

whether the engineering staff at BMW (owner of Mini Cooper)
helped with or approved of
what John Cooper designed here for a CAI with a 'twist' is unknown

Did you know BMW used a Chrysler-Brazil 4 cyl engine for the MINI Cooper,
but intends to switch to their own produced engine soon?

 

Wow, it amazes me that someone would dedicate so much of their time to bashing one specific modification/company. Here's the bottom line...if you want one get one, if you don't leave it alone. Personally, my Volant intake has given me 1 MPG better (according to the overhead computer). Not much, but it adds up eventually. A Magnaflow cat back exhaust done by a local shop gave me .5 better. So actually, the CAI has been my best investment so far as far as seeing a MPG increase.