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Old 07-20-2006 | 01:49 PM
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I read in this months issue of Off-Road Adventures that "Try adding 4 ounces of pure acetone(no additives) to every 10 gallons of gas (slightly less in diesels); for precautions, check out: www.lubedev.com/smartgas/additive.htm . We have runacetone in a 2002 Dodge Ram pickup with no problems and saw an improvement of two to three miles per gallon."
 
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Old 07-20-2006 | 04:16 PM
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Then you need to tell where you got this mystery Acetone. I did this on another web site with my 2000 Cherokee and my 2003 Avalanche. I treat water so I have access to accurate equipment and used every formula there was on the net. It gained or lost nothing, nada, zip, zilch and bumpkiss. Pretty much this rumor will circulate as long as there are people who believe Oswald did not kill Kennedy. Acetone does not work and there is no conspiracy.......
 
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Old 07-20-2006 | 04:56 PM
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First of all I dont have any mystery acetone I was quoting the magazine. Secondly what does water have to do with gasoline or acetone? Ill try it for myself... Run a couple of tanks thru and fill up each time documenting the gains or loses, by documenting the milage and gallons at each fill up and divide the two. Thank you though
 
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Old 07-20-2006 | 05:23 PM
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Calm down. Wasn't anyone getting snippy. I treat water and by doing so I have to add chemicals in very specific amounts as well as the tests I do. Everytime someone does a "test" like this then someone else chimes in well you didn't do this or that. I was just saying I have access to the instruments to be sure I do the "correct" amounts and every amount I tried, in several tanks of gas at a time did nothing. Actually what I would do is have vials ready wqith the specific amounts and then put in 10 gallons everytime using 1 premeasured vial of acetone. This was a huge discussion a couple of years ago on a Jeep site I was on so I did a very calcutated test. I said there was no change when in actuality if you add too much acetone you will loose mpg. My Avalanche was very sensitive to it and it would drop quite dramatically. I did everything from 1oz to 6oz per 10 gallons.
I didn't realize you were quoting a magazine. I thought you were trolling - my mistake.
BTW, the company I work for paints steel shelves and I have to remove the metals and imputities in the wash water before it goes down the drain. I have access to bunches of theis stuff and it's very clean and very potent. Even using the high quality acetone made no difference.
 
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Old 07-20-2006 | 05:24 PM
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I will absolutely agree that this works. I have been hesitant to try this in my truck but I have heard this for quite some time now and have tried test runs in a 1991 Toyota Celica GT. Through alternating tanks of gas (which I drive the same route under the same conditions every week and it is highway miles) my celica on Regular gas got 30.4MPG. On regular gas with 1/2 cup acetone per 10 gallons of gas measured my celica got 35.2MPG. I read it, didn't believe it, tested it and yes, it works. I also read someone of a scientific nature describe that acetone allows for a better atomization of gasoline/air mix and therefore a more thorough combustion. More power, yes, you can feel the difference. It would be cool if someone actually could test this on a dyno too. By the way, this was through SEVERAL weeks of doing this, not just a quick test. In that car I always use this mixture now. 500 miles per week and yes, it is saving me $$$! Oh yea, the fillups, I always used the same gas stations on the way too.

As for my ram, I really don't want to accelerate the deterioration of any rubber or plastic where fuel and those components meet. Not sure just what this mixture does to those items over time.
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Old 07-20-2006 | 05:47 PM
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At the very heart of this 'acetone in gasoline' fad
is a simple idea.

The simple idea is that if you could just get gasoline to be sprayed
in the finest, smallest, tiniest droplets
then you would get greatly better MPG.

Unfortunately, engineers discovered more than 75 years ago
that even if you spray the fuel to the tiniest droplets
the fuel economy only goes up a very little - just a few percent.

How did engineers discover this?

By running the same engine on natural gas that had been running on gasoline.
Natural gas is already as 'tiny droplets' as possible. Just CH4 molecules.

Natural gas engines are only a few percent more efficient than exactly the same gasoline engine at the same compression ratio.

The droplet idea is appealling.
It fools people.
It is false.

This is the same thing as the "200 MPG Carburetor" myth
There are plenty of vehicles that can get 200 MPG but it not due to the carburetor.

There have been Compressed Natural Gas
(CNG) Ram pickups and Ram Vans in the 1990s
using the fuel injected Magnum 5.2V8.
You can read about them here:

http://tinyurl.com/pz6um

Along with Honda's CNG Accord and a home refueling station.

If you want to know nearly every technical detail about running a Ram's engine on totally atomized fuel
Chrysler published a technical paper on it in the Society of Engineers Transactions Journal
which you can read for free at a University Library where they have an engineering school
or you can order it for $13

SAE Paper Number 921551
Title: Technical Highlights of the Dodge Compressed Natural Gas Ram Van/Wagon
 
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Old 07-20-2006 | 06:49 PM
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ive never heard of adding acetone, we always use toluene. its usually around 110 octane. with a mix of premium (93 octane) and toluene you can get around a 104+ octane level. f1 used to run it. the mix of premium and toulenewould equate to approx. 3.49 a gallon for race gas which is much cheaper than normal race gas.
 
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Old 07-20-2006 | 10:48 PM
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I've heard acetone can ruin the fuel lines. Don't know if this is true, won't try it on my truck.
 
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Old 07-20-2006 | 11:19 PM
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I know the owners manual recommends 89 octane and advises against anything higher.

With all the hoopla over ethenol I can't help but wonder why the EPA hasn't pushed for acetone mixed into the gas? Someone here suggested a nearly 20% gain in MPG, I'd have to question this, IF it were as simple as adding a few oz's of this stuff I doubt it would be a very big secret.

I'd be more then a little concerned about running this in anything still under warranty, IF it did cause a problem with your fuel lines etc. it might not be covered by your warranty.



With all the threads on increasing fuel mileage if I tried everything mentioned I should be getting about 35 MPH in my Ram. lol
 
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Old 07-21-2006 | 12:53 AM
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I read it in a magazine and they said 2-3mpg in an02 dodge ram iono though ill try it in my wifes 93 honda accord. they said only close to 100% will cause they fuel lines to swell.... Your only using 3 ounces to 1128 ounces of gasoline. I dont think it is a big secret I just dont think that the oil companies want you to know about it... In the article they also mentioned other chemicals xyolene and toulene. You cannot inject natural gas into a gasoline system they have special components in the natural gas fuel system... That is like when I raced go-karts you dont just take a stock engine and run alchol through it you have to change the jets.
 


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