it's really no matter, they aren't going to go anywhere. the A arms do not allow for the spring to come close to popping out, so neither will the spacer. $80 for those daystar spacers is a decent deal though.

 

i guess i can understand the whole COG thing with a body lift but lifting ur body off ur chassis doesnt make it right. think ur engine will be 3 inches lower than it is stock?!? these cars are engineered to be the way they are, why change it in the first place? So ur saying that getting a suspension lift such as Fabtech is for looks??? even though u change the ****ty suspension with a newer spring, control arm, spindle, shocks etc??? and the blocks that come with a cheap body lift are better??? If anyone were to pick a 3 inch lift for there dodge 10 out of 10 would choose the suspension lift over the blocks, guarenteed! the debate comes with what truck u buy as well, the dodge 2wd has literally maybe 5 variations to do with a "lift." if u look for lifts for a jeep its incredible how many they have. i never said that coil spacers would "pop" out, the angle of the A arms with a large spacer are so dramatic that so much stress is put on the ball joints that it is easy for one to pop off even coming out of a steep driveway. I even called Daystar and the man said if it was me i wouldnt put them on. why not look for some fender flares for larger tires? why do u even want the largest tires possible, ull just suck more gas, ull have to set the speedometer,the V6 will be workin harder, and the noise that some tires make will drive u crazy.?.
i dont get where u get ur info, but what ever thats the truth

 

and what makes it wrong? the rubber isolators on the body mount already lift it from the frame. what's your point?

umm, a body lift lifts the body...it doesn't lower anything. the engine will not move from it's stock location.

exactly. fabtech has horrible quality control and makes a poor quality product. the ride after one of their coil lifts would be terrible. unless you step up to a full out custom racing designed system (which isn't even practical), the 2wd kits on the market today are not worth the headache. go jump your truck with a fabtech lift on it and then tell me you gained performance when the front end crumbles.

my comment about the spacer staying in place was in response to eltupac's mention of bolt-in spacers.

a fender flare is not going to make any more room for a bigger tire.

isn't that the point of lifting a vehicle?.....to fit a larger tire. you get ground clearance from tire size. the bigger the tire, the more ground clearance. you gain nothing by lifting a truck 4" or whatever and retaining a factory height tire.

from experience young grasshopper.

 

and what makes it wrong? the rubber isolators on the body mount already lift it from the frame. what's your point?[/quote]

the rubber isolators do lift it but ur pretty much saying that if i bore out a motorcycle engine maybe from 250cc to 450cc it wont effect the clutch, size of radiator, amount of oil etc will it? everythin will have a larger strain and parts will wear quicker as u romp it.

[/quote]umm, a body lift lifts the body...it doesn't lower anything. the engine will not move from it's stock location.[/quote]
what i meant to say was that u will riding in ur cab 3 inches higher than what it was stock or in other words the engine will be 3 inches lower than how it was.

[/quote]exactly. fabtech has horrible quality control and makes a poor quality product. the ride after one of their coil lifts would be terrible. unless you step up to a full out custom racing designed system (which isn't even practical), the 2wd kits on the market today are not worth the headache. go jump your truck with a fabtech lift on it and then tell me you gained performance when the front end crumbles. [/quote]

thats why u have to know ur limits. i would never jump my truck unless i spent 20 grand on suspension. lifting any vehicle will make handleing slightly crapier and think about it fabtech is a widely known off road performance dealer who has tested there products. so maybe the idea of coilover suspension isnt the greatest but some like em.

my comment about the spacer staying in place was in response to eltupac's mention of bolt-in spacers.

[/quote]a fender flare is not going to make any more room for a bigger tire.[/quote]

ur right

[/quote]isn't that the point of lifting a vehicle?.....to fit a larger tire. you get ground clearance from tire size. the bigger the tire, the more ground clearance. you gain nothing by lifting a truck 4" or whatever and retaining a factory height tire.[/quote]

wat good are larger tires if u have crappy axle articulation as well as wheelhop and driveline bind because of the increased leverage on the axle? u want clearance for larger obstacles correct? how do u expect to get over them safely with the stock suspension?


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yeah, pretty sure boring out an engine and body mounts are completely different things....hard to make a case using such unlike things. a body lift does not add any extra weight and does not create any more downward force on the body mounts than they already have. where is the extra strain coming from again? as i've mentioned, i'm not apersonalfanof large body lifts, but forastheticsreasons, not reasons leading to poor performance or function.

i know what you meant by the cab being higher, but the engine is not moving in relation to you because of the body lift. you move in relation to the engine because of the body lift. the engine remains low, keeping the center of gravity down, while the body is 3" higher creating lift/clearance. that's a much better situation to be in than the entire truck being 3" higher.

"widely known" doesn't mean good. saying fabtech makes a good product in the offroad world is like saying sony makes a good product in the electronics world. a coilover system is a fine idea if it's built properly, but no one was talking about that.

your IFS truck does not have a front axle. larger tires do not create wheel hop or driveline bind. no one mentioned using a stock suspension and larger tires. after looking back, i actually mentioned using a lift to fit a larger tire. it's all about doing it correctly though.
lift your truck 4". put a 33" tire under there. you have raised your center of gravity to a certain degree. you have the room to get over harder obstacles, but you are less stable. put a 4" lift on your truck and find a way toFIT a 35" tire under there (which includes proper room for useful articulation) and you have raised your truck's ground clearance, and at the same time lowered your center of gravity for running that same size tire and made your truck more stable for that size lift, versus running a larger lift to fit that tire. it's simple physics man. i didn't need my college degrees to figure that out.

 

I installed the 2.5" spacer and left the coil spring isolator in. I gained around 4" of lift. I added 2" blocks in the back and the front is still slightly higher maybe 1/4"or less. I have driven it for over a year with no major problems. If I hit a large bump the upper control arm will hit the frame. Haven't been able to find a fix for this yet. I will eventually take out the isolater and that should take away at least 1/2" of lift.

 

pictures...

 

how much do you know about 87 d150 2wd

 

I wanna get some metal coil spacers but i can't find them anywhere for the 2002 2wd 1500 because i heard the poly spacers like wear out after awhile is it true that they wear out?

 

might need to venture over to the general 3rd gen ram section....cause literally several dozens and doenz os ram drivers are rocking the front-end spacers...and it seems like a pieace of cake from what i near. ask hammerz71...he's the offroad guy i think, and knows his stuff.