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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 02:46 PM
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Sorry in advance if I offend AirRam, but I call bull**** on this. He claims it isn't a resistor, but is sounds exactly like a resistor.

http://www.carbibles.com/fuel_engine_bible.html
What is this Device? It is a resistor chip that gives out a constant reading of air temperature to your ECU.
Sorry, it isn't. It's a 40ยข resistor that lowers the voltage coming from the sensor. A chip is made of silicon and has many layers of circuitry laid out in it, and it requires a special plug - similar to the chip inside your PC or the ECU in the car.

Will my car accelerate faster with this electronic device? Yes! This is the whole point! It has been dyno proven that this device will add up to 20 HP to your vehicle!
Really? Because the dyno graphs on e-bay are so obviously faked that I'd believe an untrained 3-year-old could do a better job. I'd like to see actual proof of this from a reputable dyno shop.

Will this device damage my car? Absolutely not. Since the altered signal will always stay within the manufacturer's specifications, there is no way for your engine to get damaged in any way.
Yeah - not technically true. You are fooling the engine into thinking it has a cooler air charge, therefore the fueling will be altered beyond the manufacturers specification for the given air temperature, and that could damage your engine.

Like I've said above in this page - if this really worked, why wouldn't the car manufacturers simply re-map their ECUs to perform like this? Or add this resistor to their circuits themselves? Simple - because it does not work.
First, I don't have one and I don't want one because I really don't have the need for one. The Hemi provides me with plenty of power as it is. I don't believe a Hemi needs a CAI either, the stock one is plenty. With that said i must disagree with what you said: Air-ram never said it wasn't a resistor, he said it's not mounted across the IAT plug but inline. The cheap ones on ebay you are referring to "replace" the IAT completely with a constant resistance regardless of air temp. The power-wire is a resistor (no secret) that when mounted in-line with the IAT (which is also a resistor) increases the total resistance seen by the computer. The IAT obviously varies with temp so if it's 80* out the eng adjusts for that. With the PW it'll see 60*. Basically, your truck drives like it does 1st thing in the morning when temps are lower and you have that little extra pep.It is a proven item for people who like to increase power by adjusting timing, race their truck, etc.Can you build one yourself? Yes, very easily, very cheaply (about a $1.00). Air-ram just packages it with factory connectors so it can esily be removed and installed with little effort, that's what you are paying for, it looks factory and can be removed and placed back to stock easier then changing your air-filter. Considering he is deployed (I still say keep your head down, during impacts anyway, that shrapnel ain't pretty)and is behind in production you can search and find many sites that will help you build one or look here for a very fancy variable model that allows you to dial in the just right mixture, great for you guys who really like playing with your A/F mixture. Sorry Air-ram, you gotta catch-up, add the pot. http://hurricane-horsepower.com/
 
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 03:02 PM
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It seems like it does the job, but I talked to a few shops and they say its gonna soot your pipes pretty bad cause of the mixture. I think a programmer would still be the way to go.
The Power Wire will NOT soot your pipe at all... The mods that do that are the ones that use a resistor to JUMP the IAT plug and completely remove the sensor from the circut. The POWER WIRE is IN-LINE with your harness and KEEPS the AIR TEMP SENSOR which allows a variable in the temps... the FIXED "EBAY CHIP" is NOT the same at all... those will cause issues and the SOOT to the pipes as they can make you run extreamly RICH in the HEAT and extreamly lean in the cold... both are NEVER good for performance.

SPEED SAFE, AIR RAM
If the mods that soot your pipes are resistors, and his does not soot your pipes, then isn't that the same as saying "this mod is NOT a resistor"?
 
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Old Jun 16, 2007 | 03:00 AM
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Uh....no, for the exact reason I said. His allows your IAT to continue working just adding some resistance to decrease the temp, the others don't, they take it out of the loop completely. You canuse the cheap ones at the track where you will make one run at WOT then take it out, and all is well. The only problem I could see is the cost, which honestly seems a little high for what it is.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2007 | 09:44 AM
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Uh....no, for the exact reason I said. His allows your IAT to continue working just adding some resistance to decrease the temp, the others don't, they take it out of the loop completely. You canuse the cheap ones at the track where you will make one run at WOT then take it out, and all is well. The only problem I could see is the cost, which honestly seems a little high for what it is.
Keeping the IAT in place or not, it's still a ****ing resisitor.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2007 | 01:03 PM
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Exactly!!!!! No argument there!! Air Ram won't ague that.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2007 | 03:22 PM
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I don't see why this mod is so desirable anyway, except for the promise of cheap performance. Fooling the ECU into thinking the incoming air is cooler means it adds fuel and timing. The timing bump adds power but the extra fuel when it's not needed means you're wasting gas and running rich, which hurts performance. At my current 10 mpg in-town average, I don't want it any worse!

Resistor mods are in the same group as the Tornado in my book.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2007 | 03:57 PM
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Well the thing is, it cannot introduce more fuel because the O2 sensors prevent it, they'll see it running rich and back the fuel off. At WOT the O2's will allow the extra fuel thereby allowing more power. As far as a fuel saver, yea, I agree, not worth it.I know, I defend this thingyet I don't want one. I just like to see both sides of everything.I guess I believe in it for what it is, a power wire. I just don'tagree withthe idea of someone just saying, sure install it, no worries, without really explaining what it does and how. There are people on here whodon't knowwhere their Throttle Body is, yetwe expect them to understand re-mapping their fuel system (not saying the power-wire does that!). That advice is dangerous.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2007 | 05:13 PM
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Exactly!!!!! No argument there!! Air Ram won't ague that.
yet you argued it for 3 posts. [sm=dontgetit.gif]
 
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Old Jun 16, 2007 | 10:00 PM
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I've got an '06 with airram's powerwire, cai, and air scoop. I believe everyone has their own opinions, but I actually have it all installed and it run's great!Personally I couldn't "feel" much from the scoop, but the powerwire and cai power I could feel. I installed each piece with the stock motor...just to see what results I could feel per item.....like I said before not much from the scoop, but the other two seem to work great. My little bro has a stock '05 hemi with the superchips tunerand same exhaust setup as me........we are side by side all day long. So whatever the superchips tuner puts out "claimed 30 horse" is most likely what my setup is providing.

Anyways, **** what everybody else thinks, it sounds great, runs great.....more power to ya' Airram.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 02:10 PM
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Exactly!!!!! No argument there!! Air Ram won't ague that.
yet you argued it for 3 posts. [sm=dontgetit.gif]
What? Where? Please quote me where I said it was not a resistor? I didn't, and neither did Air Ram!!! That's all I was saying, it IS a resistor!! It's how it's installed that matters.
 
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