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Isnt that bad????

Old Oct 12, 2006 | 05:04 AM
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Let me see if I can explain:

I live in Mexico, I wait for 2 years to buy a Ram of the 3rd. gen.
I buyed one 2004 custom pick up, automatic trans and a/c from a autorized dealer; but the problem its that the ram have gas equipment, when the ram goes to the dealer they put it away the gas equipment, so only have the nomal gasoline source.

My question its: how much damage would have the motor for the time that have gas equipment??

The truck its 1.5 years old and have 25000 km (15000 miles).

Did I miss the original garantie?

P.D. Sorry about my eglish
 
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 06:02 AM
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your english is fine don't worry about that, however I am unsure of the question you are asking. do you have different types of fuel in mexico than in the united states?
 
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 12:35 PM
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Is the same type, but some people say to me that the gas butane damage the internal parts from the motor, I'm going to claim to the dealer the fact that he dosnt say me nothing about it, and he promess me the original warranty, and of course, when the system of butane gas was instaled the warranty get void.

Hope someone can say how much damage gets de motor so I can decide if I take back the ram (thats hurts cuz I really love her) or I'll keep it.

Thanks Guys
 
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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 01:31 PM
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Keep your truck Golpick.We use propane powered trucks at work and they are no problem at all,the mechanics even say they require less maitenance because propane is so clean.They dont have injector clogs,carbon deposits in the heads,stickey throttle bodies,dont have to replace fuel filters as often and dont have as much oil contamination as you get from burning fossile fuels.Our trucks run constantly,if propane was going to tear them up,our company would use gasoline.Drive your truck and enjoy!
 
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 04:31 AM
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thanks, im gonna make a agreement with the dealer so he keep the warranty from factory at least only with him, hope i make it.

Thanks guys!!, I really wish that I can keep my truck
 
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 06:40 AM
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Yep.................I agree with Horseapples.
I run with LPG .........liquified petroleum gas, with no problems.

LPG is one of the cleanest vehicle fuels available, producing far less carbon dioxide than petrol and fewer particulates and nitrogen oxides than diesel. In environmental terms. Pan-European tests carried out on new vehicles in 2003 showed that for:
Global warming:
Use of LPG resulted in a 20%saving on CO2 over petrol and a 1.8% saving compared with diesel.
Air Quality:
On urban roads, on average, just one diesel vehicle emits the same fine particles as 120 LPG vehicles and the same NOX as 20 LPG vehicles.
LPG vehicles can help offset the considerable social costs of pollution damage to health and buildings.
You get a quieter ride with LPG; noise levels are 50% less than with diesel engines.

Also,

LPG emits similar CO2 to diesel and considerably less than petrol. It is also much cleaner than diesel in terms of NOx and particulates which impact on our local air quality. A 400,000 Euro emission programme has recently completed, comparing the emissions from petrol, diesel and LPG vehicles:

Compared with petrol, vehicles running on LPG emit about 20% less CO2.
Compared with diesel, one diesel car is equivalent to 20 LPG cars with regard to NOx, and 120 LPG vehicles with regard to particulates.
Diesel emits substantially more fine particles than LPG.

LPG engines are quieter than diesel engines.

LPG will quickly evaporate in the event of a fuel spill. Unlike petrol and diesel, there is no risk of ground or water contamination.

LPG can be found naturally. About 60% of UK LPG is a by-product of the natural gas extraction process. The environmental and economic benefits of using this supply locally rather than exporting it are substantial.


I have over 10,000 miles on the system with no problems.
Al.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 12:16 PM
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Am curious about the use of LPG. Specifically:
1. Any performance degrades on a 5.7 hemi?
2. Costs and MPG comparisons.
3. Refueling issues and tank capacity/range?
4. Could a truck be configured to be dual fueled? Run LPG as primary but flip a switch (like dual tanks) to change to reg. gas?

Thanks in advance.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 01:38 PM
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1) I can't feel any performance deficit between petrol and LPG on the old Butt o' meter.

2) Costs...........well here in the UK it's about 93p per liter for petrol and 40p for LPG. I will quickly recoup my instalation costs at that rate and have done so.

3) There are no refueling issues over here, or in the rest of Europe. Some countries do use different fillers at the pumps compared to the UK, but have conversion nozzels to suite. My twin tank capacity is about 140 working liters. Larger tanks can and are used, by instead of slinging underneath the truck sills in either torpedo shaped tanks or utilising the spare wheel well as I have done, by installing in the truck bed behind the cab 160 or 240 liter large capacity tanks. I can get well over 200 miles before I need a refill on my tanks. Here in the UK LPG is readily available at moct petrol stations and 200 miles is plenty over here.

4) My truck starts from cold using petrol, then when a preset temp is reached by the engine, automatically changes over to LPG. Also, when you run out of LPG, it automatically changes back to petrol with an audio and visual warning.
I can also, overide at ANY time, to either run on LPG or petrol. The engine does not care what it runs on and there is NO sound/performance differance AT ALL !!! The only thing I will say, is that when the engine changes from one fuel to the other, it is seemless and the operator cannot tell what fuel he is using until looking at the display. The engine does not stutter or skip a beat at all. The engine does seem to run a lot smoother and quieter on LPG.

I have NO hesitation whatsoever, in recomending my Prinz gaseous sequentil LPG system .
Hope this helps.
Al.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2006 | 02:25 PM
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Hey Al, I was wondering when you were going to chime in. How are things? I didn't know that LPG was that readily available in the UK, i guess I've missed alot. I tell you what, I think some headers would really help you out and add some serious oomph to your truck.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2006 | 06:15 AM
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I´m sad cuz the dealer dosn accept and besides making a litle investigate job, the original truck owner was a drug dealer and it looks like the truck was used for make some kind of delivers and it was used off road, and the doors panels was removed and the back panel; so I have bad feelings about the suspension, so I get my money back (hope) and look 4 another ram on the market

Thanks guys 4 u helping.

P.D. Some ppl tell me that the valves get damaged with the propane, is taht true?
 
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