Yes I have seen that DVD, but I think you are a little mixed up with your information about the frame. They show that the Ford has the strongest frame because of the large boxed crossmember, and how poorly the other cross members are produced as an open design. The Dodge however, does have a closed or boxed crossmember much like the Ford's only smaller. The guy showing pieces of the crossmembers actually states that he was "Happy to see that the Dodge did have a boxed in crossmember." But yes, I do know what you mean about the Fords feeling like boats. My dad used to have a 96' F150 with the 5.8L V8, now that was a truck! And then they came out with the newer 97-03 or 04? Design, and the F150 has gone down hill ever since in my opinion. My dad has a F250 2003 and it feels like you are driving a BUS! The dash sits low, the drivers seat sits pretty high, and is flat, and the steering wheel lays down like that of a bus! or so it seems, I may be overstretching the truth a little bit, but that's how I feel in it. I just like the feel of the dodge, keeps the dimensions of a large truck, but still very comfortable, and handles well for the size, obviously a Tundra will outhandle it due to size and weight, all obvious reasons, but perhaps the Dakota would be a better vehicle to put up against the Tundra.

As for the quad cab Tundra as mentioned previously by Veibz (The truck I drove was an actual 4dr with the buckets, and I was exaggerating about the whole windshield thing, just how I felt) yes, I do think that is had a little more room in the rear seat than the Ram does. I THINK (and this is a shot in the dark) that dodge made a excellent choice (feel free to disagree) by getting rid of the extra cab, and going with the quad cab ONLY. I think that move made it easier to make more quad cabs at a lesser price than having both models on the showroom, however, most of the others such as Ford and Chevy and Toyota all have extra cabs as well as quad cabs, so when they designed their 4dr. truck they wanted to make is a big leap from the extra cabs so that people get what they pay for... If that makes sence! LOL I kind of lost my train of thought...

 

The 06 Ram has a new frame, when Fords DVD was made, I'm sure they were comparing a 04 F-150 to a 03 or 04 Ram.

My 06 is my first dodge truck so I don't know if thier is a whole lot of change in framesfrom 04 to 06..

One + of my 06 2500 is the openess under the truck, easy to service and maintain and yes it's ride height is higher than a 1500 Ram, and the axels stearing and suspension are not the same But I'm betting the Frame is the Same.

 

Yes the frame was redesigned in 2006, however it still kept the boxed in cross member. The 2500 frame is quite a bit different than the 1500 frame for 06'. Check it out at a dealer, it's noticeable easily.

 

All this frame talk... has anyone ever had a truck frame fail? I have a 1977 dodge D-150 along with all my other trucks and it's still intact. Hmm!!! It's to bad Ford won't compare power steering pumps.

 

LOL, good point although the topic was not about the frames failing, it was about the amount of flex the frames perform. Obviously a flexing frame is no good, the boxed frames are much stronger than the others.. IE Dodge and Ford frames are supposedly stronger than Toyota, and Chevy. I believe those were the 4 test vehicles.

 

No takers from the tundra guys to race me?

 

I will offer the same thing as motorider228......Come on tundra guys you have nothing to worry about you trucks are faster than ours.....[sm=icon_stickpoke.gif]

 

BgBluRam - Around in the area Im at I rarely see or hear of any ram owner who would back down from showing some kid in his little ford, chevy, Toyota, or Nissanup and putting them in their place. I watched last night in fact as a youngbrat in a ford F150 cut offaram 1500QC, and the QC driver then floored it by him like he was standingstill and it turned out to be a an elderly man in his mid 60s that beat him.I also wasn't going into why people would buy a tundra over a ram. I do admit that geographics do play a part in what vehicles are more popular in certain areas. And what one person likes is their own opinion on it, Im not going to tell anyone not to go buy what they like.

I was plain and simply saying that just because the tundra will have more hp and torque it does not mean that the tundra will automatically win in a raceagainst any other vehicle on the road because there are many other factors that must be considered into the mix other than just the hp and torque specs. And it goes the same with other ratings as well as far as off road capabilities, towing capabilities, and other vehicle specs.

 

Ok, that's a valid response. I guess I should have said, Hemi owners around here are not one's to flex their muscle and race little 1.6L 4cyl Honda cars to prove themselves. Perhaps it's different in your area. (I just used Honda's as an example, I know you said F150) Racing is for the track, pretty irresponsible to do it on the street. I would hate to see what would happen if an 8,000 lb. vehicle hit someone moving at any rate of speed above 50mph.

 

I aint worried, and by the way, the SS aint crap. It looks good, but I smoked one the other day.