2007 tundra.....hemi guys worried????
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That's not necessarily true, not all or most of the Hemi guys want to race their trucks. I will say that they do drive them hard, but don't we all? What is a truck if you cant drive it hard, whether it's a sport truck, a lifted offroad truck, or a truck for towing, they are all used for what they are designed. Around here, the reason we don't get to see what a Tundra can do is either 1. Most Tundra owners around here are middle aged women who have no interest in offroading or racing. & I live in Southern California so mud and harsh terrain has to be found, it's not everywhere.
You must take in to consideration ALL contributing factors such as location, number of Toyota dealerships compared to Dodge Dealerships in your area, the terrain, and of course the people in the market and whats popular in your area, Which Tundra's are not in my area, and Dodge is the leading seller.
You must take in to consideration ALL contributing factors such as location, number of Toyota dealerships compared to Dodge Dealerships in your area, the terrain, and of course the people in the market and whats popular in your area, Which Tundra's are not in my area, and Dodge is the leading seller.
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My 6500lb qc smokes tundras, there the slowest truck on the road right know...POS...My only problemshave been with this duramaxx with 700horse and big *** tires, smoked me from a stop, from 5 mph roll stayed right next to him, even though my tires are 9.5 inches on a 22inch rim, i spin bad...Anyways toyota's have always and will always fall just short of the compitition....
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I was a Toyota Mechanic for years and was really interested in buying a 4door Tundra. Toyota builds a quality vehicle. Great construction, economy, at a fair price. The only thing that scares me ishow light duty they are. In fact, when Toyota first designed the Tundra in 99', they tried to meet an EPA index which is based on the weight of the truck. In order to meet the lower weight class, they installed smaller front brakes and lighter rear drums off the Tacoma. What a nightmare that was with warped rotors every 10k miles for people who didn't even tow. Everything about the Tundra was lighter. The suspension is identical to the Tacoma, the rear end was too. A Tundra is nothing more than a larger body and frame on Tacoma running gear, which is fine for commuting or grocery shopping. Nissan isn't any different either. I would have purchased one but I needed a Man truck that could pull my enclosed car trailer safely and haul a load. The only vehicle that would get the job done was a full size American (so to speak) truck. The Tundra just doesn't have the weight and size needed to do the job safely(or brakes). Even if the manufacture claims high tow ratings, I don't feel the trucks can do it safely. I found a QC long bed Dodge with the Hemi that's real nice on towing.I could use a little more torque but then I should have bought a diesel. I'm very impressed with my Dodge but maybe because it's an American built Ram, not mexico. If you have Man chores to do, then get a American Truck, If you are planting flowers for the wife, get the Home Depot Hauler Tundra orthe Costco packingTitan. Now for drag racing, I would say the new Toyota might be pretty fast. Shoot, they really don't weigh much and the horsepower is around the same the Hemi, but I didn't buy a truck for drag racing. But one things for sure, I'm not worried about the new Tundra. Toyota will never step up to the size department that Americans need for a pick up. Often imitated but never duplicated
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Let these Japanese manufacturers think they can run with the big dogs...when it comes to barking they can do it all day. When it comes to biting....thats where we'll win.>>>>>>>
Yeah, thats what GM said when Honda introduced the Civic.
Rule #1: Never underestimate your competition!
Rule #2: If your on topof the mountain now someone is trying to figure how to knock you down.
Yeah, thats what GM said when Honda introduced the Civic.
Rule #1: Never underestimate your competition!
Rule #2: If your on topof the mountain now someone is trying to figure how to knock you down.
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You all can think and say what you want, I guess your entitled to your own opinions? right? I feel how I feel because I came from a tundra. Belive me, you will find ALOT more Dodge, ford, and GM folks going to the Tundra, than you will tundra comming out to us dodge people. Toyota, is no doubt a better quality vehicle. In my opinion. I feel all you jokesters tense up and try to act all big and cool because you can handle the truth.
the ONLY reason i came to dodge is because they dealership worked a great warrantee plan into my deal. It was the only way i would buy the truck. The only thing that made me switch was the fact that I LOVE the design of the dodge hemi sport. with the billit grill, hoodscoop and ground effects. I refused to look at the 4.7L because of how slugish it felt when i test drove it. I had my buddy, who was a car dealercome with me to help me look at cars. when we drove a 4.7 thunder road, we both were amazed at how slow the thing was. The reason i had to have a hemi is only because of the fact that it actually would move when you hit the gas. 0-60. im convienced from expierence that the hemi cannot out run a toyota stock. from 60-108. I think the hemi can take it for sure. I remember My first road trip in my hemi was from cocoa beach florida to Gainsville and i remember being impressed at how quickly it moved out from 70mph +
I hate to bash chryster, but thier reputation for quality has alot to be desired, I feel they areheading in the right direction. as of right now the only thing i think they have working for them is their braking system, Thumbs up for that, and the hemi engine.
I think if you all would actually step out of your closed minds and drive a toyota you would be VERY impressed with how responsive they are when you put that gas pedal to the floor.
The only thing that got me into a dodge is the factthey worked out a great warrantee deal on the truck. I told them up front that Im not a fan of chrystler quality vs that of a toyota. They certainly DID NOT try to argue differently or convience me that a dodge was a better truck, they knew as well as i did. They worked a great warrantee into the truck for me, and when it expires, i'll be onto my next truck.The Toyota treated me great and I would not think twice about picking up another one next time around. But while im young, im definently going to flirt with all of the producers vehicals. Except for honda and nissan. Id rather ride my 2 yr old nephews tricycle.
You all need to relax and open up a lil bit. Dodge people are sooo ****!
the ONLY reason i came to dodge is because they dealership worked a great warrantee plan into my deal. It was the only way i would buy the truck. The only thing that made me switch was the fact that I LOVE the design of the dodge hemi sport. with the billit grill, hoodscoop and ground effects. I refused to look at the 4.7L because of how slugish it felt when i test drove it. I had my buddy, who was a car dealercome with me to help me look at cars. when we drove a 4.7 thunder road, we both were amazed at how slow the thing was. The reason i had to have a hemi is only because of the fact that it actually would move when you hit the gas. 0-60. im convienced from expierence that the hemi cannot out run a toyota stock. from 60-108. I think the hemi can take it for sure. I remember My first road trip in my hemi was from cocoa beach florida to Gainsville and i remember being impressed at how quickly it moved out from 70mph +
I hate to bash chryster, but thier reputation for quality has alot to be desired, I feel they areheading in the right direction. as of right now the only thing i think they have working for them is their braking system, Thumbs up for that, and the hemi engine.
I think if you all would actually step out of your closed minds and drive a toyota you would be VERY impressed with how responsive they are when you put that gas pedal to the floor.
The only thing that got me into a dodge is the factthey worked out a great warrantee deal on the truck. I told them up front that Im not a fan of chrystler quality vs that of a toyota. They certainly DID NOT try to argue differently or convience me that a dodge was a better truck, they knew as well as i did. They worked a great warrantee into the truck for me, and when it expires, i'll be onto my next truck.The Toyota treated me great and I would not think twice about picking up another one next time around. But while im young, im definently going to flirt with all of the producers vehicals. Except for honda and nissan. Id rather ride my 2 yr old nephews tricycle.
You all need to relax and open up a lil bit. Dodge people are sooo ****!
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ORIGINAL: Veibz
You all can think and say what you want, I guess your entitled to your own opinions? right? I feel how I feel because I came from a tundra. Belive me, you will find ALOT more Dodge, ford, and GM folks going to the Tundra, than you will tundra comming out to us dodge people. Toyota, is no doubt a better quality vehicle. In my opinion. I feel all you jokesters tense up and try to act all big and cool because you can handle the truth.
the ONLY reason i came to dodge is because they dealership worked a great warrantee plan into my deal. It was the only way i would buy the truck. The only thing that made me switch was the fact that I LOVE the design of the dodge hemi sport. with the billit grill, hoodscoop and ground effects. I refused to look at the 4.7L because of how slugish it felt when i test drove it. I had my buddy, who was a car dealercome with me to help me look at cars. when we drove a 4.7 thunder road, we both were amazed at how slow the thing was. The reason i had to have a hemi is only because of the fact that it actually would move when you hit the gas. 0-60. im convienced from expierence that the hemi cannot out run a toyota stock. from 60-108. I think the hemi can take it for sure. I remember My first road trip in my hemi was from cocoa beach florida to Gainsville and i remember being impressed at how quickly it moved out from 70mph +
I hate to bash chryster, but thier reputation for quality has alot to be desired, I feel they areheading in the right direction. as of right now the only thing i think they have working for them is their braking system, Thumbs up for that, and the hemi engine.
I think if you all would actually step out of your closed minds and drive a toyota you would be VERY impressed with how responsive they are when you put that gas pedal to the floor.
The only thing that got me into a dodge is the factthey worked out a great warrantee deal on the truck. I told them up front that Im not a fan of chrystler quality vs that of a toyota. They certainly DID NOT try to argue differently or convience me that a dodge was a better truck, they knew as well as i did. They worked a great warrantee into the truck for me, and when it expires, i'll be onto my next truck.The Toyota treated me great and I would not think twice about picking up another one next time around. But while im young, im definently going to flirt with all of the producers vehicals. Except for honda and nissan. Id rather ride my 2 yr old nephews tricycle.
You all need to relax and open up a lil bit. Dodge people are sooo ****!
You all can think and say what you want, I guess your entitled to your own opinions? right? I feel how I feel because I came from a tundra. Belive me, you will find ALOT more Dodge, ford, and GM folks going to the Tundra, than you will tundra comming out to us dodge people. Toyota, is no doubt a better quality vehicle. In my opinion. I feel all you jokesters tense up and try to act all big and cool because you can handle the truth.
the ONLY reason i came to dodge is because they dealership worked a great warrantee plan into my deal. It was the only way i would buy the truck. The only thing that made me switch was the fact that I LOVE the design of the dodge hemi sport. with the billit grill, hoodscoop and ground effects. I refused to look at the 4.7L because of how slugish it felt when i test drove it. I had my buddy, who was a car dealercome with me to help me look at cars. when we drove a 4.7 thunder road, we both were amazed at how slow the thing was. The reason i had to have a hemi is only because of the fact that it actually would move when you hit the gas. 0-60. im convienced from expierence that the hemi cannot out run a toyota stock. from 60-108. I think the hemi can take it for sure. I remember My first road trip in my hemi was from cocoa beach florida to Gainsville and i remember being impressed at how quickly it moved out from 70mph +
I hate to bash chryster, but thier reputation for quality has alot to be desired, I feel they areheading in the right direction. as of right now the only thing i think they have working for them is their braking system, Thumbs up for that, and the hemi engine.
I think if you all would actually step out of your closed minds and drive a toyota you would be VERY impressed with how responsive they are when you put that gas pedal to the floor.
The only thing that got me into a dodge is the factthey worked out a great warrantee deal on the truck. I told them up front that Im not a fan of chrystler quality vs that of a toyota. They certainly DID NOT try to argue differently or convience me that a dodge was a better truck, they knew as well as i did. They worked a great warrantee into the truck for me, and when it expires, i'll be onto my next truck.The Toyota treated me great and I would not think twice about picking up another one next time around. But while im young, im definently going to flirt with all of the producers vehicals. Except for honda and nissan. Id rather ride my 2 yr old nephews tricycle.
You all need to relax and open up a lil bit. Dodge people are sooo ****!
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RE: 2007 tundra.....hemi guys worried????
ORIGINAL: BgBluRam
Well for me it's not that I am ****, it's just speaking from experience. Like I said, I have driven a Tundra, I had to drive one for about 4 days actually, and I didn't feel like I was in a truck. I felt like I was in a carolla with a bed. When you sit in it, the interior is very small, the dash is literally in your lap, and I could lick the windshield it was soooo close. The truck is exactly as described above, a tacoma with a bigger body, and if you compare the two underbodies, you will find that statement to be entirely true. Yes, the V8 option for the Tundra isvery responsive and quick, but you would expect that out of a V8 in a little truck like that.
ORIGINAL: Veibz
You all can think and say what you want, I guess your entitled to your own opinions? right? I feel how I feel because I came from a tundra. Belive me, you will find ALOT more Dodge, ford, and GM folks going to the Tundra, than you will tundra comming out to us dodge people. Toyota, is no doubt a better quality vehicle. In my opinion. I feel all you jokesters tense up and try to act all big and cool because you can handle the truth.
the ONLY reason i came to dodge is because they dealership worked a great warrantee plan into my deal. It was the only way i would buy the truck. The only thing that made me switch was the fact that I LOVE the design of the dodge hemi sport. with the billit grill, hoodscoop and ground effects. I refused to look at the 4.7L because of how slugish it felt when i test drove it. I had my buddy, who was a car dealercome with me to help me look at cars. when we drove a 4.7 thunder road, we both were amazed at how slow the thing was. The reason i had to have a hemi is only because of the fact that it actually would move when you hit the gas. 0-60. im convienced from expierence that the hemi cannot out run a toyota stock. from 60-108. I think the hemi can take it for sure. I remember My first road trip in my hemi was from cocoa beach florida to Gainsville and i remember being impressed at how quickly it moved out from 70mph +
I hate to bash chryster, but thier reputation for quality has alot to be desired, I feel they areheading in the right direction. as of right now the only thing i think they have working for them is their braking system, Thumbs up for that, and the hemi engine.
I think if you all would actually step out of your closed minds and drive a toyota you would be VERY impressed with how responsive they are when you put that gas pedal to the floor.
The only thing that got me into a dodge is the factthey worked out a great warrantee deal on the truck. I told them up front that Im not a fan of chrystler quality vs that of a toyota. They certainly DID NOT try to argue differently or convience me that a dodge was a better truck, they knew as well as i did. They worked a great warrantee into the truck for me, and when it expires, i'll be onto my next truck.The Toyota treated me great and I would not think twice about picking up another one next time around. But while im young, im definently going to flirt with all of the producers vehicals. Except for honda and nissan. Id rather ride my 2 yr old nephews tricycle.
You all need to relax and open up a lil bit. Dodge people are sooo ****!
You all can think and say what you want, I guess your entitled to your own opinions? right? I feel how I feel because I came from a tundra. Belive me, you will find ALOT more Dodge, ford, and GM folks going to the Tundra, than you will tundra comming out to us dodge people. Toyota, is no doubt a better quality vehicle. In my opinion. I feel all you jokesters tense up and try to act all big and cool because you can handle the truth.
the ONLY reason i came to dodge is because they dealership worked a great warrantee plan into my deal. It was the only way i would buy the truck. The only thing that made me switch was the fact that I LOVE the design of the dodge hemi sport. with the billit grill, hoodscoop and ground effects. I refused to look at the 4.7L because of how slugish it felt when i test drove it. I had my buddy, who was a car dealercome with me to help me look at cars. when we drove a 4.7 thunder road, we both were amazed at how slow the thing was. The reason i had to have a hemi is only because of the fact that it actually would move when you hit the gas. 0-60. im convienced from expierence that the hemi cannot out run a toyota stock. from 60-108. I think the hemi can take it for sure. I remember My first road trip in my hemi was from cocoa beach florida to Gainsville and i remember being impressed at how quickly it moved out from 70mph +
I hate to bash chryster, but thier reputation for quality has alot to be desired, I feel they areheading in the right direction. as of right now the only thing i think they have working for them is their braking system, Thumbs up for that, and the hemi engine.
I think if you all would actually step out of your closed minds and drive a toyota you would be VERY impressed with how responsive they are when you put that gas pedal to the floor.
The only thing that got me into a dodge is the factthey worked out a great warrantee deal on the truck. I told them up front that Im not a fan of chrystler quality vs that of a toyota. They certainly DID NOT try to argue differently or convience me that a dodge was a better truck, they knew as well as i did. They worked a great warrantee into the truck for me, and when it expires, i'll be onto my next truck.The Toyota treated me great and I would not think twice about picking up another one next time around. But while im young, im definently going to flirt with all of the producers vehicals. Except for honda and nissan. Id rather ride my 2 yr old nephews tricycle.
You all need to relax and open up a lil bit. Dodge people are sooo ****!
Wow, a mature response from the dodge family. there is some light after all. You are correct about being smaller on the interior. Mine had bucket seats. and I had come from a mitsubishi 3000gt before, so i was used to a sporty feel, and I think that is what you get with a tundra. You get a Light truck with a v8 engine. it almost has no choice but to be responsive. I dont think that the windsheild was so close, I think it was an obticle illusion with the Dash. The dash is very small compared to that of any of the nissans, dodges, or fords. Did you drive a tundra with bucket seats or a the 60/40? my buddy has one with a 60/40 and it felt alot bigger than mine. I do think the quad cab tundras are slightly bigger than that of the quad dodges. I havent looked up any stats to prove my point, and of course The Mega cab, well there is on comparison. I think the 07 tundra is going to hurt the top 3 alot when it makes its apperance. Time will tell tho. Rumor has it they are going to be putting out close to 400 horses. i think 385 to be exact. Dodge was smart to bring back a more effeciant Hemi engine. it was a GREAT marketing move on their end. I still think they have alotto prove as far as quality but i also feel that they are right on the right path. I know EVERYBODY i had talked to told me i was crazy to buy a dodge and i would regret it. Thats comming from owners of all the makers, including most dodge people. BUT, i also feel they are thinking to much of the 2nd generation Rams, which did have its fair share of problems.
and really, -who cares what is faster? lol it'sa fricken TRUCK.
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RE: 2007 tundra.....hemi guys worried????
Toyota and nissan and Dare I include the Ridge line are a great product if your looking for a car to handel like a light duty pickup. When the Japs (Izzue ) take a deisel engine out of the Hno and Build a one ton pickup to compete with duramax, powerstroke and the Cummins, I will be amazed.
Until than, I don't care, I reserched the Ram to death and decided to buy one. I wasent crazzy that the 2500 Ram is built in mexico, But every othier truck ( all fords ) were built in the States and Canada.and thier quailty, or lack of it was a sorry stae of affairs, So, I could do no wrong.
The Japs do have an advantage with thier engines, light whieght, doubble over head cams, multi Valve's, high compression, Formula 1 inspired designs that perduce awsome power / mileage from smaller displacement, great if you want a performance car, but not so great for truck stuff.
Dodge stepped up with the gas powerd 5.7 in 03, for the rest to take 4 years to play catch up is a great trubute to Dodge and that's just the way it is, I like simplicity and a truck that is all truck and dose not have to prove it.
The Tundra and Tacoma do nothing for me, it still looks and drives like a Camary with bigger tires and they will Sell to the non using hard core truck guy's / girls who go to home depot every odd sunday.
The build quality on my 06 Ram 2500 is not as refigned as the Jappenase trucks, and Dodge is dead last behind GM and Ford, But after owning this Dodge Ram, I'm still happy happy happy !!!!
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just out of curiosity have any of you seen that lil dvd put out by ford? "Truth about Trucks"
I remember watching it a few years ago. a Co-worker had bought a new Ford and was all stoked about the dvd. It broke down and tore all of the trucks apart. Nissan, Ford, dodge, Chevy and Toyota. It compared Frames, transmission, gears, brakes, everything.
By there standards is broke it down as
Of course Ford being the best of all trucks then followed by a toyota, then chevy. Dodge and Nissan (according to the dvd produced by ford) were bottom of the line because of crappy frame design, poor gears and over all quality
At the time i was a toyota owner so it was cool to see that toyota ranked so high.
I also, along with my dodge own a F150. I use it strictly for long roadtrips. it's a 2002 and has 160k miles on it. The truck runs like a champ like the day it came out off the assembly line. I replaced the transmission at 150k, but had no problem doing so. My family has had great luck with Fords. my first ford had 206k miles on it before the AC went bad. then i got rid of it. The only reason why I wont buy a ford is because they feel sluggish to me. they feel to much like a boat going around turns and are slower than hell.
I remember watching it a few years ago. a Co-worker had bought a new Ford and was all stoked about the dvd. It broke down and tore all of the trucks apart. Nissan, Ford, dodge, Chevy and Toyota. It compared Frames, transmission, gears, brakes, everything.
By there standards is broke it down as
Of course Ford being the best of all trucks then followed by a toyota, then chevy. Dodge and Nissan (according to the dvd produced by ford) were bottom of the line because of crappy frame design, poor gears and over all quality
At the time i was a toyota owner so it was cool to see that toyota ranked so high.
I also, along with my dodge own a F150. I use it strictly for long roadtrips. it's a 2002 and has 160k miles on it. The truck runs like a champ like the day it came out off the assembly line. I replaced the transmission at 150k, but had no problem doing so. My family has had great luck with Fords. my first ford had 206k miles on it before the AC went bad. then i got rid of it. The only reason why I wont buy a ford is because they feel sluggish to me. they feel to much like a boat going around turns and are slower than hell.
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Off topic, but with Ford, thier garbage, that's the truth abought thier trucks and my ownership expierance in 02 and 04, booth bought new.
Prior to 02, I owned many Fords, Used cars and trucks and they served me well.
The 04+ F-150 truck ford markets on paper is no where close to what stumbals off the assembly line. Ford is still hidding issues with the 97 to 04 heratage style pick up and the 5.4 and 5.43v come equiped with nightmares to every Ford owner.
That's why I went to Dodge. The smart person dose thier reserch on a brand and compares it to a competeing brand based upon thier positive or negativeownership expierances and takes a leap of faith.
All the marketing in the world is hype to get you in the door and no one consumer is = or going to demand the same from a pick up.
Ford is in deep SH Period, Dodge has a history of being in DSH and GM is close as well GM, to Toyota's credit, they do have a strong reputation for quality, esp the 22R 4 cy.
Over all No one brand is perfect, you have to find the positive that meets your needs in Comparison to a brand that dose not..
I'm sure thier are manny happy or unhappy owners of a specfied brand...
Prior to 02, I owned many Fords, Used cars and trucks and they served me well.
The 04+ F-150 truck ford markets on paper is no where close to what stumbals off the assembly line. Ford is still hidding issues with the 97 to 04 heratage style pick up and the 5.4 and 5.43v come equiped with nightmares to every Ford owner.
That's why I went to Dodge. The smart person dose thier reserch on a brand and compares it to a competeing brand based upon thier positive or negativeownership expierances and takes a leap of faith.
All the marketing in the world is hype to get you in the door and no one consumer is = or going to demand the same from a pick up.
Ford is in deep SH Period, Dodge has a history of being in DSH and GM is close as well GM, to Toyota's credit, they do have a strong reputation for quality, esp the 22R 4 cy.
Over all No one brand is perfect, you have to find the positive that meets your needs in Comparison to a brand that dose not..
I'm sure thier are manny happy or unhappy owners of a specfied brand...