He is entitled to his opinion, as you and I are ours. However opinions never make one right or wrong so you can go ahead and claim he’s right, but that still won’t make it so. Since you are educated, ostensibly, you will likely agree you have never seen a transmission or gears pull a load up a hill by themselves. Moreover, it is highly improbable you will ever see just a frame or bolts pull a load up hill ether. Call me crazy, but I think power might be important here, and the more the better. The Ram has more power – period. But wait, how can that be because the F-150 is “way more truck than the Ram” *if* we are to dismiss such a trivial thing as the engine. For those who think the F-150 is the better truck put your money where your mouth is and go buy one. I’ll be seeing you at the stoplight in my Hemi Ram.

 

Don't let me wrong,I like Dodge,they so cool,but as I see the owerall quality is poor,I mean Ford win here,or I'm wrong?Look,Ford have less HP,but more towing,its a truck,its not racing car,its truck for havy work.And again,coil rear suspension is not good idea for truck that build for towing,havy load.If I'm wrong just correct me.

 

Total agree!!!

 

Cummins3500. it is not my place to correct you on your opinion and I have no desire to shoot it down. What I am trying to get across is your opinion doesn’t make mine wrong. If you are all happy in the pants about the F-150 more power to you. Listen, the ľ ton 2500 Ram tows more than the F-150 does but that doesn’t make the F-150 any less of a truck - by your logic it would. Conversely, the Ram being more powerful and faster doesn’t make it any less of a truck than the F-150 ether. The previous Ram had the same towing capacity as the new one with coils. You may not think that coils are a good idea but I have yet to see any specific reason why this is so. If you have some empirical data to dispute this other than “it’s not a good idea” then I am certainly open to changing my mind. When you say a truck is not for racing then OK I accept your opinion. However, there are certainly a lot of F-150 owners out there who will not agree with you. A quick visit to a Ford truck forum will reveal no shortage of threads about how to hop up the 5.4L engine especially in regards to keeping up with the Hemi. More significantly, you will find plenty of Ford owners (not me) complaining about the lack of power in the F-150. We may just agree to just disagree on the power issue.

 

umm well it still has to stop.

and English fail.

 

I wonder if the OP uses a weight distributing hitch while towing. IMO the engine can certainly handle a much higher amount than what is listed by the manufacter (?sp). I have towed many many miles in a beat up old chevy van. I have even towed close to 12000lbs with it , although it sagged like a pair of old ****. I seldom see in these tow posts any mention of a weight distributing hitch at all. These are essential IMO for any tow greater than 4-5K LBS. They smooth out the ride and make it easier on the rear suspension. Remember that the RAM has a class IV hitch and they are rated for up to I believe around 14K lbs. Also the use of a trailer with electric brakes is also a must ...unless you like doing pads and rotors often. Just my 2cents



Stuart
04 RAM 1500

 

actually, the 09 F-150 that ford uses to tow 11,300 pounds around of there show stuff for the new truck... sags like a **** but it also has the helper bars on the hitch to kind of even it out. i thought it was pretty funny.

 

I fail to see how the "helper" bars are funny. Regardless of the tow capacity...I would use them every time I tow over 5000lbs. They are an important component to towing for any truck out there. Those "helper bars help to even out the weight distrubution front to back and help the trailer immensly to track better. As I said above the tow package includes a classIV hitch and is rated to handle ~12K lbs. I wonder if anybody else uses a weight distributor or not . Also electric trailer brakes are necessary as well not just a surge brake.

 

Fords are geared for low end torque, the 5.43v is not a engine friendly to all levels that a 5.7 hemi is, you don't need H/P to tow, you need torque.

I can't speak for the new 6speed automatic in the ford, but the 4sp auto really killed any performance in a 5.43v ford.

The fact's are that no one wants a truck to ride like a truck, but a truck that rides like a car and can tow like a truck.

All the new ram is is a pasenger car with a box, same with the F-150.

Ten years ago you got less car, but more truck in any domistic pick up, the new trucks don't hold up in the suspension areas.

My old pos o4 f-150 reg cab 4x4 long box whighs more than my 06 2500 reg cab 4x4 long box, and surprise, my 5.7 6sp hemi gets way better mileage.

If you want a real truck, 3/4 are the only way to go.

 

the 6 speed in the ford gives it a nice swift kick in the *** and gets it going alot better. But that was with 4.10's also i believe. The one's ive driven were in a 09 King Ranch Supercrew with the new 5.4L. i'd say about as quick as a first gen hemi.