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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by itaintachev
I did not have that issue with my 10. I did however realizie I HATE the 20" tires in the snow. Felt like I was floating.. Did not like the feel at all. My 03 witht he 17's was so much different!
For a big, heavy vehicle I was very surprised at how easily it seemed to be sucked off-course when I got out of the existing two tire tracks on snow-covered paved roads. It seemed a lot worse in the Ram than in my past vehicles (SUVs and smaller cars). Stopping capability on the snotty, icy mess we had Saturday was also dismal, but that I expected. I really wish I could shut off anti-lock brakes.

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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBlueEdge
For a big, heavy vehicle I was very surprised at how easily it seemed to be sucked off-course when I got out of the existing two tire tracks on snow-covered paved roads. It seemed a lot worse in the Ram than in my past vehicles (SUVs and smaller cars). Stopping capability on the snotty, icy mess we had Saturday was also dismal, but that I expected. I really wish I could shut off anti-lock brakes.

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Thats mostly the crappy stock tires that are not fit for a MN winter. Even the SRA's that came on the 17's are not much of a snow tire.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2010 | 09:07 AM
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I still think it is going to be the tires pushing the snow to the centor of the truck where it collides and is sent up into the tranny area. The front fascia wouldn't have anything to do with how the snow gets thrown up and back. Most people are not driving at a hundred miles per hour in slushy snow to get any kind of an aerodynamic reaction from the fascia.
I can't wait to see what the GoPro sees. I have one too but it hasn't snowed up in NH yet. Waiting for a wet snow to see what happens under my Truck.
BTW I did not have any issues last winter with my Sport...
 
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Old Nov 16, 2010 | 10:17 AM
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Surprisingly, after reporting the issue on the Dodge website (via their 'contact us' link) they actually followed up with me via phone. As expected, there is nothing they can do about it short of recording the issue, but at least they did that much.

The customer support person I spoke with encouraged anyone with the issue to report it to Dodge so that they can build up a series of cases and eventually decide if there is anything they can/should do about it. So, if you've had it happen send them an e-mail or give them a call to report it.

She kept trying to guide me to my dealer to have it checked out, but once I pointed out that the dealer is worthless if they can't 'duplicate the issue' (which they can't unless we have some more slushy snow) she conceded that would be a waste of time.

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Old Nov 16, 2010 | 10:42 AM
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Just my opinion....
i think with these trucks haveing 20inch wide fat tires, and a "tread pattern" so very bad, (and a combination of not very good wheel well protectors) its just forcing wet slushy snow to fly up under the truck bodies easier than say a GOOD winter tire wouldnt. These stock 20 inchr`s just plain suck for ANY kind of driveing. My reasoning, these tires push water and snow out from under the tread instead of driveing thru it....so thats why i think we are seeing problems like show/slush getting thrown up under the truck bodies. Dodge should have thought this out a little better by adding a cover or longer inner fender well protectors.

I bought a set of steel stock wheels off egay and installed SNOW tires for the winter.
We`ll see how that works out soon enough...they`re predicting snow here this week.
(RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR, not likeing THAT one bit.....!!!!!!!!)
I also went with alot narrower tire to get the tread down into the road better instead of hydroplaneing on top of snow/slush like the stock tires do.

Anywhoz.... just my thoughts
 
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Old Nov 16, 2010 | 10:48 AM
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Wow thats not good, i didn't have any problems last year and i have the sport also. I would be interested to see how this pans out with dodge. They will need to get this corrected asap.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2010 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Stunna980
Wow thats not good, i didn't have any problems last year and i have the sport also. I would be interested to see how this pans out with dodge. They will need to get this corrected asap.
That's only going to happen if people who have experienced the problem report it.

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Old Nov 16, 2010 | 02:51 PM
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FWIW I have a 2010 Laramie crew cab 4v4, with the skid plates, and I went through some pretty nasty slush/snow last year and never had an issue. The 20" tires arent the best in the snow for sure but I never got stuck or felt unsafe.

Next time I drive through some wet snow I'll take a peek underneath, I would hope Dodge can come with a fix but since these trucks have been out a couple years now I'm surprised this hasnt come up a lot in the past.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2010 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by HEMI5150
Just my opinion....
i think with these trucks haveing 20inch wide fat tires, and a "tread pattern" so very bad, (and a combination of not very good wheel well protectors) its just forcing wet slushy snow to fly up under the truck bodies easier than say a GOOD winter tire wouldnt. These stock 20 inchr`s just plain suck for ANY kind of driveing. My reasoning, these tires push water and snow out from under the tread instead of driveing thru it....so thats why i think we are seeing problems like show/slush getting thrown up under the truck bodies. Dodge should have thought this out a little better by adding a cover or longer inner fender well protectors.

I bought a set of steel stock wheels off egay and installed SNOW tires for the winter.
We`ll see how that works out soon enough...they`re predicting snow here this week.
(RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR, not likeing THAT one bit.....!!!!!!!!)
I also went with alot narrower tire to get the tread down into the road better instead of hydroplaneing on top of snow/slush like the stock tires do.

Anywhoz.... just my thoughts
Not trying to defend Dodge or anything but Dodge has had the 20" rim on truck's since about 2002. This seems to be the first issue with snow packing so I doubt it has anything to do with the 20" rim. Also the tire on the stock 20 is about 11" wide which isn't all that bad for a 33" tire. I think the 17" rim comes with a 31" tire and it is about 10.5 inches wide, so it is about the same. According to this tire size calculator. http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCal...?action=submit So if you bought stock size 17's then you essentially have the same width as you did on the 20" rim. It sounds to me that you just don't like the 20's, which you are entitled to your opinion. I just don't think it has anything to do with this issue. Tread pattern is everything, I think a lot of people (not saying you) choose tires because they look cool, not because of how they perform. Then blame the tires when they do not live up to the hype. Plus people think they can still drive normal speed's in the snow because they have "snow tires" or "snow rated" tires. Those of us who have driven in the snow know better and know you still have to drive slower. Just my two cents
 

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Old Nov 16, 2010 | 05:22 PM
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No, and normally I would not pull someone out with my pickup - but they were on a residential street near my house with a wheel stuck over a curb. If they had been really stuck I never would have had enough traction
Now I have had several pickups 2wd and 4wd and for you to pull out a car it must have just needed a nudge since you are also driving a 2wd correct? The ESP must work really good but I would not make a habit of using it for that one of the reasons I believe it is shut off automatically in 4wd...at least I believe it does.
 
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