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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 01:05 PM
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I have a Sport QC coming with 3.92's and the anti-spin diff. Just ordered the Mopar CAI and am going to have them install it before I take delivery. I don't want to have any problems w/ warranty.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 01:58 PM
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The mopar CAI shouldn't cause any issues - or supply anything but some additional noise. The only reason that the K&N stuff yeilds better dyno results is that it has larger openings and lets more air and crap into the motor.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Rated R
I have a Sport QC coming with 3.92's and the anti-spin diff. Just ordered the Mopar CAI and am going to have them install it before I take delivery. I don't want to have any problems w/ warranty.
Your wasting your $$... With a screwdriver and a wrench and a little common sense with tools you can do it yourself.. It'll probably take them three hours to put it on anyway. It can't void your warranty unless the CAI specifically caused the problem. If your radio goes out they can't void your warranty, if your Mass Air Flow sensor goes out then yes they can pin point it to the CAI and void that portion of the warranty. Highly unlikely though. If your worried about warranty at all in anyway then I wouldnt put it on.... My two cents.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 02:24 PM
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Your wasting your $$... With a screwdriver and a wrench and a little common sense with tools you can do it yourself.. It'll probably take them three hours to put it on anyway. It can't void your warranty unless the CAI specifically caused the problem. If your radio goes out they can't void your warranty, if your Mass Air Flow sensor goes out then yes they can pin point it to the CAI and void that portion of the warranty. Highly unlikely though. If your worried about warranty at all in anyway then I wouldnt put it on.... My two cents.
I know it's a very easy job to put it on myself, it has nothing to do with that. After having several vehicles from various brands over the years they all try to weasel out of warranty on even the smallest of claims. I'd get a K&N or an Airaid and spend much less as well but with buying a Mopar product and having the dealer install it themselves, it removes all concerns in regard to warranty denial.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 02:58 PM
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if your Mass Air Flow sensor goes out then yes they can pin point it to the CAI and void that portion of the warranty.
Our trucks don't use MAF sensors, even less to worry about. I believe they use the atmospheric pressure and air temp plus other sensors to adjust for the mixture. Someone else here that knows more about this can chime in. On vehicles with MAFS oiling of the K&N was sometimes problematic if too much oil was used on the filter, the oil would coat the sensor and throw off the mixture.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by oldjeep
The mopar CAI shouldn't cause any issues - or supply anything but some additional noise. The only reason that the K&N stuff yeilds better dyno results is that it has larger openings and lets more air and crap into the motor.

I've seen tests of oiled filters first hand. Yes, on average they let more contaminants in - BUT only because of the increased surface area, proportionately, they are about the same as a standard, paper filter WHEN properly oiled. When you have an issue with larger contaminants getting past the filter is when they are run dry and then they can be very bad.

Last I knew, and this was as of about three years ago, AEM had the contract for the Mopar CAI and it's an AEM Brute Force and the only difference is a blue Mopar sticker as opposed to a blue AEM sticker on the intake tube...
 
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Rated R
I know it's a very easy job to put it on myself, it has nothing to do with that. After having several vehicles from various brands over the years they all try to weasel out of warranty on even the smallest of claims. I'd get a K&N or an Airaid and spend much less as well but with buying a Mopar product and having the dealer install it themselves, it removes all concerns in regard to warranty denial.
Even though it's a mopar product does not mean it is covered under...do a little research here's a link to a parts catalog, back in 09' but I am sure it hasn't changed.
http://www.mo-pod.com/pdf/09_Perform...log-120908.pdf (read page two the disclaimer regarding aftermarket parts) just make sure it isn't classified as a no parts warranty as is... "P"... just a heads up bro.\

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Our trucks don't use MAF sensors, even less to worry about. I believe they use the atmospheric pressure and air temp plus other sensors to adjust for the mixture. Someone else here that knows more about this can chime in. On vehicles with MAFS oiling of the K&N was sometimes problematic if too much oil was used on the filter, the oil would coat the sensor and throw off the mixture.
Pedro Dog...your right it is an air temp sensor! My old Ford had a MAS airflow sensor. Got them confused!
 
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 06:22 PM
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" The mopar CAI shouldn't cause any issues - or supply anything but some additional noise. The only reason that the K&N stuff yeilds better dyno results is that it has larger openings and lets more air and crap into the motor."

I've been using them for 20+ years and if anything the intakes are cleaner. On a bike you can see the difference in a very short period of time. The big opening thing is an old wives tale. Its just a better filter.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by rtkman
" The mopar CAI shouldn't cause any issues - or supply anything but some additional noise. The only reason that the K&N stuff yeilds better dyno results is that it has larger openings and lets more air and crap into the motor."

I've been using them for 20+ years and if anything the intakes are cleaner. On a bike you can see the difference in a very short period of time. The big opening thing is an old wives tale. Its just a better filter.
It's interesting you say that, my ATV (Can Am) was having a problem with running rich and fouling plugs (like having to pull plugs and clean them to get the thing to start every 3 or 4 months)and my oil (full synthetic) was getting pretty dirty in between changes. My local dealer adopted a quick fix for both issues. They pull the stock paper air filters and substitute K&N filters.

Oil has been a LOT cleaner and I've been running the same plug for over two years now without having to touch it. No other changes were made, except I replaced the crap brake pads with EBCs, but I don't think that accounted for it, LOL... Obviously the greater air flow was enough to lean the mix out, I can't account for the cleaner oil, because paper filters don't flow near as well but should filter at least as well. But I ain't arguing with it...
 
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Old Jan 16, 2012 | 08:33 PM
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I think that I will have to check my filter out this week, I have a Mopar Cold Air Intake.
 
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