4th Gen Ram Tech 2009 - 2018 Rams and the 2019 Ram Classic: This section is for TECHNICAL discussions only, that involve the 2009 - 2018 Rams and the 2019 Ram Classic. For any non-tech discussions, please direct your attention to the "General discussion/NON-tech" sub sections.

Valve stem tops mushroomed - #2 Misfire continued

Old Mar 1, 2012 | 09:58 PM
  #1  
Coolidge's Avatar
Coolidge
Thread Starter
|
Professional
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 205
Likes: 0
Unhappy Valve stem tops mushroomed - #2 Misfire continued

So my truck has been at the dealer now for 2 weeks. They have now removed the right cylinder head and found the valve stem tops under the rockers are mushroomed. They said they have seen the same thing on police car hemi's but not on the truck hemis. How the hell does that happen with roller rockers wow. Dealer says it seems like Dodge uses cheap valves. So they are going to pull the other head and ship them off to a machine shop most likely, Chrysler is resisting but the dealer said if this head is like that the other should at least be checked. Man this is my first Dodge and probably my last. Major engine problems at 27k miles, on a truck motor, the hell with that. Love the truck but its as good as gone, I guess I'm heading back to Ford or maybe a Chevy.
 
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2012 | 11:03 PM
  #2  
fat1's Avatar
fat1
Registered User
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
From: WV
Default

Hurry, truck month is almost over
 
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2012 | 11:46 PM
  #3  
LU229's Avatar
LU229
Banned
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 1,770
Likes: 1
Default

Originally Posted by Coolidge
So my truck has been at the dealer now for 2 weeks. They have now removed the right cylinder head and found the valve stem tops under the rockers are mushroomed. They said they have seen the same thing on police car hemi's but not on the truck hemis. How the hell does that happen with roller rockers wow. Dealer says it seems like Dodge uses cheap valves. So they are going to pull the other head and ship them off to a machine shop most likely, Chrysler is resisting but the dealer said if this head is like that the other should at least be checked. Man this is my first Dodge and probably my last. Major engine problems at 27k miles, on a truck motor, the hell with that. Love the truck but its as good as gone, I guess I'm heading back to Ford or maybe a Chevy.
I find this very hard to believe.... (and so isnt chrysler)
I wouldnt put alot of faith in what your dealer is telling you.
Go take some pictures of the heads and post them on here.
Let some of the guys on here see them, they`ll likely give you a better answer.

Heading back to ford or chevy:
If you think you have problems now, switch back and you`ll wish you hadnt.
Both turds and chubbies have their issues as well.... been there, done that already... i came back to dodge.
 

Last edited by LU229; Mar 2, 2012 at 08:15 AM.
Reply
Old Mar 2, 2012 | 07:56 AM
  #4  
RAMULAK's Avatar
RAMULAK
Captain
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 716
Likes: 1
From: Nashua, NH
Default

Sigh.......
 
Reply
Old Mar 2, 2012 | 08:14 AM
  #5  
LU229's Avatar
LU229
Banned
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 1,770
Likes: 1
Default

Originally Posted by RAMULAK
Sigh.......
"Sigh......." ?????
Care to share ramulak..?
 
Reply
Old Mar 2, 2012 | 08:58 AM
  #6  
Coolidge's Avatar
Coolidge
Thread Starter
|
Professional
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 205
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by LU229
I find this very hard to believe.... (and so isnt chrysler)
I wouldnt put alot of faith in what your dealer is telling you.
Go take some pictures of the heads and post them on here.
Let some of the guys on here see them, they`ll likely give you a better answer.

Heading back to ford or chevy:
If you think you have problems now, switch back and you`ll wish you hadnt.
Both turds and chubbies have their issues as well.... been there, done that already... i came back to dodge.
That's actually a good idea, I'm heading over there after work with my camera. I should say the dealer did offer to send me a picture.
 
Reply
Old Mar 2, 2012 | 10:33 AM
  #7  
HammerZ71's Avatar
HammerZ71
Administrator
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 24,686
Likes: 21
From: South Georgia/East Florida
Default

Originally Posted by Coolidge
So my truck has been at the dealer now for 2 weeks. They have now removed the right cylinder head and found the valve stem tops under the rockers are mushroomed. They said they have seen the same thing on police car hemi's but not on the truck hemis. How the hell does that happen with roller rockers wow. Dealer says it seems like Dodge uses cheap valves. So they are going to pull the other head and ship them off to a machine shop most likely, Chrysler is resisting but the dealer said if this head is like that the other should at least be checked. Man this is my first Dodge and probably my last. Major engine problems at 27k miles, on a truck motor, the hell with that. Love the truck but its as good as gone, I guess I'm heading back to Ford or maybe a Chevy.

I honestly can't say I blame you. Although I've seen the inside of a few Hemi truck engines, some with well over 100,000 miles on them and haven't seen a single valve issue short of one '03 with a broken valve spring.

I had a piston crack and drop on a new Ford F150, 5.4 Triton with 14,000 miles on it and the subsequent dealings I had with the dealer and Ford made me trade it in two days after I got it back and swearing off Ford for good...
 
Reply
Old Mar 2, 2012 | 02:45 PM
  #8  
Coolidge's Avatar
Coolidge
Thread Starter
|
Professional
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 205
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by HammerZ71
I honestly can't say I blame you. Although I've seen the inside of a few Hemi truck engines, some with well over 100,000 miles on them and haven't seen a single valve issue short of one '03 with a broken valve spring.

I had a piston crack and drop on a new Ford F150, 5.4 Triton with 14,000 miles on it and the subsequent dealings I had with the dealer and Ford made me trade it in two days after I got it back and swearing off Ford for good...
Yeah I have been the Ford route in 2004, decent truck, gutless imo, brake rotors were gone in 30k miles, but otherwise I was happy with it. Thing is I had a Plymouth Voyager minivan years ago, I was real happy with it until it blew a head gasket at 37k miles just out of warranty. The service manger tells me, "yeah that's common with that motor" to which I replied funny you didn't mention this BEFORE I purchased the damn thing.

So that's 2 Dodge/Plymouth's for me and both had major engine failures early. Maybe its just not my brand, I baby my vehicles so imo there's no reason they should be breaking down like this.
 
Reply
Old Mar 2, 2012 | 08:48 PM
  #9  
kpevin's Avatar
kpevin
Veteran
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 296
Likes: 1
From: East TN
Default

If you sell it then Dodge wins, I would use up that 100K powertrain warranty.

Getting pissed off and trading it in on another truck isnt going to **** off Dodge, if you like the truck let them fix it and keep it. At least you are getting a loaner, if you need the truck for work thats another story.

Honestly unless the top of the valve stems were worn down .200 I doubt they found the misfire. How you go from decarbonizing and sending the truck back to you and then pulling the heads who knows.
 
Reply


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:21 PM.