Yeah both my brothers have 3rd Gen Dodge diesel's and they are pretty good rigs and great mileage. After doing some research on current diesel's however I'm going to stick with gas engine, it sounds like the idiots in government have ruined the diesels with their smog crap, now they don't get any better mileage than the Hemi and have tons of smog crap service issues and the power is down. I spent about 2 hours looking into Dodge and Ford diesels this evening and it was nothing but high drama in those forums.

I'm back to the Raptor at this moment.

 

Good advice, but on the other hand this dealer sells both Ram and Ford so it would be interesting to order a Ford Raptor and trade in this Dodge at the very same dealer that is fixing it. What are they going to say, they don't want it in trade? I would say why, is something wrong with it, its under full warranty here are the keys go fix it.

 

Lol...good one! Actually I think they would jump on that, they'd be be getting rid of an unhappy camper and making a sale at the same time while gaining another happy camper. Sounds like a good deal to me...I say go for it!

 

Isn't the oil pump wrapped around the front cam or crank bearing/journal? (after checking it's the crank) Also, I was under the impression that the oiling system was backwards as opposed to older engines. The gen 111 hemi and I beleive the semi hemi 4.7 as well oil from the top to the bottom (cant imagine how since its wrapped around the crank?). Not all that sure and kind of confused but if that's the case I think that it could have easily gone through the rest of the internals.

 

Oh, come on. I've seen too many 5.7s that have had hard work and cheap maintenance that didn't have any problems. The Hemi has no such bad reputation for engine problems, much less serious engine problems. I don't even hear the Dodge haters saying anything like that because examples like your's are almost non-existent. One failure does not mean the design or assembly is basically flawed.

But, I do have a sense you'll be much happier in the Raptor.

Dusty

 

No engine is perfect mine is PROOF of that. If you make thousands of something a percentage are probably going to have something wrong with them. I have no issue with that at all.

But when something does go wrong, clearly a manufacturing defect and under warranty, and in spite of the customer and service mangager's recommendation the manufacture chooses to cheap out and leave the customer holding the bag with their well its just one customer who cares attitude I don't care how good their freaking engine is I'm done with them.

 

UPDATE: Ran into a guy I know yesterday who owns a 2010 Raptor 6.2 and spent about an hour looking over his truck. 43k miles and the only issue he's had was a broken spring on the gas filler door.

I gave his brakes a good look, he's still on the factory pads and they look good, his rotors look better than my Dodge with 28k miles. Orignal tires and they still have good deep tread. He tows bigger trailers than I will tow and says it tows great up to about the rated 8000 pounds. He does have one trailer with a lot of tongue weight that he says is not a good match with the softer suspension.

I wasn't sure about the short 5.5 foot bed, I always thought they looked kind of stupid on a truck but for some reason they look good on these Raptors.

The SCAB doors, not going to happen. I owned a 2004 F150 SCAB and I hate those doors, its SCREW cab or nothing for me.

This Raptor seems to be about the total package for me. All I'd have to do is put a Bedrug in it and a cap or Truxedo and I'm good to go.

 

I wonder if having had a lawyer involved from the get go would have made a difference?

 

That was EXACTLY my issue with Furd. I lost a piston at 14k miles. Mild off-road use (fishing/hunting) and heaviest thing I towed was a less than 3,000 lb. bass boat. ANY component can be/go bad, but the fight I had to get it repaired and the way they went about repairing it is the reason I'll never buy another Furd product.

At least they are fixing your truck without a fight, albeit not to your satisfaction (and I don't blame you one bit), with me they went about trying to duck warranty repair and tried to blame the body lift and cat-back exhaust that I added after purchase for my piston bascially cracking in half. I had to obtain a lawyer - and then of course they said I simply misunderstood them. Yeah - like I can misinterpret the words "you modified your truck - it's no longer covered under warranty"...

 

Yup Ford is on my radar as they seem to be trying to duck responsibility for some HPFP issues on their diesels. Chrysler sniffed around at suggesting I may have abused the truck but I shut them down hard with "the service manager see's no sign of abuse".

I'm still mulling what I'm going to do, I may keep the truck for 6 months and wait for the 2013 Raptor to see if it has Xeon HID headlamps. A Powerwagon is also not off the table.

They didn't have the truck ready today, I'm out of town tomorrow so it looks like I'll get to pick it up Wednesday. Supposedly its fixed they just need to re-charge the AC, wash and detail it.