desperate- load levelers/lift bags
The new truck sits on the bump stops and it was okay for a few weekends but as the springs have gotten worn out, it's a mess to control. We had load assist coilover's on the third gen, but we cant find any for the 4th gen. Do any cross over from another year/truck that we can put in? Can't find any firestone airbags, either.
The camaro is 2975 pounds, 52%/48% back. We can go back about 6" further on the trailer and that's it. We're back 8" from where we used to have it on the old truck (second pic).

The camaro is 2975 pounds, 52%/48% back. We can go back about 6" further on the trailer and that's it. We're back 8" from where we used to have it on the old truck (second pic).

Last edited by magnethead; Oct 23, 2012 at 02:52 AM.
Love that car!!!!, Firestone makes them for our trucks and mine are Air Lift, they also make ones that take the place of the stops, that are even stronger, there are stronger rear springs also.
http://www.suspensionconnection.com/...-air-bags.html
http://www.sdtrucksprings.com/firest...1500-2009-2012
http://www.generalspringkc.com/produ...FXCmPAodcAoAJw
http://www.suspensionconnection.com/...-air-bags.html
http://www.sdtrucksprings.com/firest...1500-2009-2012
http://www.generalspringkc.com/produ...FXCmPAodcAoAJw
I'd skip the air bags and invest in a weight distributing hitch. Any idea what your current tounge weight/total weight is?
Also, it is hard to tell, but is your receiver at the proper height on the new truck?
Also, it is hard to tell, but is your receiver at the proper height on the new truck?
Can you
1) Pull the trailer out onto level ground
2) Take a picture from the side
3) Unload the car and check the level of the trailer
4) Check the tounge weight loaded?
Mine is a 2wd, but I can put 1000-1200lbs of class 5 in the back and it is not on the bump stops.
1) Pull the trailer out onto level ground
2) Take a picture from the side
3) Unload the car and check the level of the trailer
4) Check the tounge weight loaded?
Mine is a 2wd, but I can put 1000-1200lbs of class 5 in the back and it is not on the bump stops.
Sitting unloaded* (300 pounds of race equip under the tonneau) the trailer hitch height is the same on both trucks.
Putting the trailer on drops the new truck about half an inch, didn't drop the old truck even w/o the assists
With the car loaded where we used to put it, new truck sits on the bumpstops. 8" back where we keep it now, there's about 1/4" of room. I think the old truck had a little more room than that with the assists.
The car is 52% front (1547) and 48% back (1428) on our intercomps. We havent measured tongue weight.
The downhill driveway isn't helping at all.
Putting the trailer on drops the new truck about half an inch, didn't drop the old truck even w/o the assists
With the car loaded where we used to put it, new truck sits on the bumpstops. 8" back where we keep it now, there's about 1/4" of room. I think the old truck had a little more room than that with the assists.
The car is 52% front (1547) and 48% back (1428) on our intercomps. We havent measured tongue weight.
The downhill driveway isn't helping at all.
I'd check the tounge weight and then consider a load leveling hitch. There is no way that you should be on the bump stops unless you have over 1000lbs on the ball. If you find that the tounge weight is in the reasonable range for that load (500-700) then you have something odd going on with your rear springs. If you are over 500 or 600lbs on the ball then you are exceeding the hitch rating without a WD hitch anyways.
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6 inches back might make a big tounge weight difference. I would reccomemd a weight distrubuting hitch, as others have stated, as well as either air bags or something more solid like timbren.
I haul my 24' enclosed with my 09 1500 crew (should have a lot more tongue weight then your setup) and started with firestone airbags and WD hitch, eventually replaced airbags with Timbren SES so i didnt have to play with air all the time.
my trailer is probably to much for this truck, but a setup like yours shouldnt put it on the ground that bad even without suspension assistance. make sure your hitch height is correct as well.to much drop will add additional tongue weight and i'll bet your third gen sat a little higher. take it out on level ground and when the trailer is level, check where your hitch should be.
I also agree the driveway angle is probably making it worse in that picture.
I haul my 24' enclosed with my 09 1500 crew (should have a lot more tongue weight then your setup) and started with firestone airbags and WD hitch, eventually replaced airbags with Timbren SES so i didnt have to play with air all the time.
my trailer is probably to much for this truck, but a setup like yours shouldnt put it on the ground that bad even without suspension assistance. make sure your hitch height is correct as well.to much drop will add additional tongue weight and i'll bet your third gen sat a little higher. take it out on level ground and when the trailer is level, check where your hitch should be.
I also agree the driveway angle is probably making it worse in that picture.
I'd check the tounge weight and then consider a load leveling hitch. There is no way that you should be on the bump stops unless you have over 1000lbs on the ball. If you find that the tounge weight is in the reasonable range for that load (500-700) then you have something odd going on with your rear springs. If you are over 500 or 600lbs on the ball then you are exceeding the hitch rating without a WD hitch anyways.
I haul my 24' enclosed with my 09 1500 crew (should have a lot more tongue weight then your setup) and started with firestone airbags and WD hitch, eventually replaced airbags with Timbren SES so i didnt have to play with air all the time.
my trailer is probably to much for this truck, but a setup like yours shouldnt put it on the ground that bad even without suspension assistance. make sure your hitch height is correct as well.to much drop will add additional tongue weight and i'll bet your third gen sat a little higher. take it out on level ground and when the trailer is level, check where your hitch should be.
I also agree the driveway angle is probably making it worse in that picture.
my trailer is probably to much for this truck, but a setup like yours shouldnt put it on the ground that bad even without suspension assistance. make sure your hitch height is correct as well.to much drop will add additional tongue weight and i'll bet your third gen sat a little higher. take it out on level ground and when the trailer is level, check where your hitch should be.
I also agree the driveway angle is probably making it worse in that picture.
We're racing at Texas Motorplex this weekend, I'll measure the trailer deck angle loaded an unloaded and take pictures.








