last i heard, the non-union laborers at the toyota plants stateside werent working for 2 bucks an hour or being tortured at work in poor conditions...

 

That's because unions were created when there weren't laws to protect workers, now they are only there to suck the life out of businesses. And they've succeeded.

GM has announced today that North American operations will be shut down for atleast the month of January.

 

interestingly, ford has ordered another shift for the F150 plant. when i went through that on the media tour, it looked like a pretty nice place to work. ford doesnt seem to be feeling the crunch like gm and dodge.

 

^^^ and if they are, they surely won't admit to it.

 

They're feeling the crunch, but they've shut down other operations and have put assets like Volvo up for sale to make up for it.

 

yeah an are probably looking to get rid of mazda (or their share of it)... if it were me, i would kill mercury and focus on lincoln and ford (or vice versa)

 

No, I guess I see your side there... you get the points

Say what? Not sure what ya meant man...

 

sorry, we were kinda on the ford (not need any help... yet) aspect and nofrag was refering to the getting rid of volvo... i said that they should also look at selling their stake in mazda and killing either lincoln or mercury so they don't have the wasted money that goes into keeping those stupid... i mean pointless crappy brands in place...

 

oh gotcha, yeah I would definently say kill mercury and or lincoln, which ever is less profitable

 

when i toured the F150 plant, they bragged about how easy they had made the job for thw worker, with things like the rad support and pretty much everything on it, and the dash, with everything on it...already put together...the swing it into place with a hydraulic arm, and bolt it down. the job has gotten easier over the last 50 years, and the union reps need to recognize that, and be a little less shortsighted for the sake of their industry.